Should Brandon Roy's #7 be retired?
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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 08/08/2013 5:56 PM

    Should the organization retire #7, honoring Brandon Roy?
    YES (12)
     46%
    NO (14)
     54%
    After hearing that newest Trail Blazer Mo Williams chose to wear #7, I saw many people commenting on how he shouldn't in respect to Brandon, and how that the #7 should be retired. Should Roy's number be retired?... My vote is for yes, but not right now. While many people on this page grew up with players like Clyde Drexler and Terry Porter, I grew up watching Brandon Roy. The fact that he spent one season with Randolph and then was thrust into the "captain" role as a second year player, would deliver clutch shots night in and night out, as well as pull the Blazers into a new era and out of the Jail Blazer era, I believe, makes him one of the all time greats in Blazer history after only playing 6 seasons. For right now, as much as it stings a little, I wouldn't be too upset with Mo picking #7. Remember, Terry Porter only had his number retired a few seasons ago, and Rasheed Wallace, most notably, wore #30. I think Brandon's number will be retired eventually, but for now it shouldn't be a problem for players to wear it.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/08/2013 6:54 PM

    I don't like the way it ended here for BRoy. I wasn't real thrilled with his final two seasons here either. I'd say as far as team success, no. As far as community and popularity and personal achievements, yes. As great as BRoy was his first years, he didn't make us better in the end. He actually had a lot to do with losing Andre Miller and getting Ray Felton. Then the TWolves fiasco. It just didn't end well from my perspective. Brandon should have stayed on with the Blazers in a non player role and then he'd be a lock for a retired jersey but now it should rightfully be the TWolves problem. If Roy came back to Portland looking for a place it'd help his cause. Mo Williams might get #7 retired here next to a championship though.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2013 7:17 PM

    Yes Roy deserves to get his jersey retired!!! He made this team respectful again, and he is the best player I have ever seen wear a Blazer jersey. He is BETTER THAN HALF THE PLAYERS THAT WE HAVE JERSEYS RETIRED!! He saved us from the Jail Blazer Era. He was crazy special, I would LOVE for him to have his jersey retired!! Blazers would be awesome to respect Brandon like that

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/08/2013 7:42 PM

    I'm sure it will be Siccolo, most will agree with you across the board. No slight on his legacy as a player. It wasn't his fault his knees were beyond repair. He was great! I wish him all the best but my new favorite #7 is Mo Williams!
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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 08/08/2013 7:50 PM

    imo he wasnt here long enough hate to say it he was great when he was here but his tenure just wasnt long enough

  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/09/2013 7:32 AM

    My vote is "Yes", but not on stats alone as I agree he was not in a Blazer uni long enough.  Roy not only brought the organization out of the "Jail Blazer" era, he also made the pinwheel respectable and relevant again on a national level.  Difficult if not impossible to accurately quantify such contributions, however the retiring of his number I feel is justified.  How soon we forget, in this "microwave", 'what have you done for me lately' era.  


    That said, it wasn't my signature on Roy's checks.  Owner's money, owner's decision.  We as fans aren't privy to all that owner Paul Allen is with regard to any player and/or situation, nor should we be.

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/09/2013 3:31 PM

    If we retired jerseys for sentimental purposes, id say yes. Suffice it to say that every Blazer fan has a soft spot for B-Roy. That dude was the business. Fearless and clutch. But other than his fourth quarter heroics,solid all around play and single handedly salvaging one game in the playoffs against Dallas, i dont think we should retire his number. Should the people who wear number 7 represent it to the fullest ? Absolutely. Mo is no Roy but i sure dont mind him wearing it.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/09/2013 4:18 PM

    Wow! I hate seeing other Blazers wear number 7!! Only player I would mind wearing number 7 in a Blazer jersey besides ROY is LeBron James.. Even then I would feel uncomfortable!

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/09/2013 4:24 PM

    As far as Mo goes, it's an available number, and I really liked his reasons for picking it anyway (7 members of his family). Doesn't bother me at all that he's going to be wearing it next season.


    Now to the harder question. Right after Roy retired due to the degenerative knees, I thought his number should be retired. Today, I don't think that anymore. The first reason is that he only played 5 seasons with the Blazers and led them to 3 first-round exits in the playoffs during his tenure. So as far as a winning legacy, he comes short of retired-number status. The second reason is that, while leading Portland out of the Jailblazers era is admirable, it wasn't necessarily basketball talent but character that did this. I would love to see him honored for this, but it should be some sort of award; retired numbers are reserved for winners and leaders, and long-term legends. Finally, the year following his retirement left a bad taste in my mouth. As much as I advocated his return, I was shocked at how soon it actually came. Instead of a seemingly down-and-out player making a triumphant return, it ended up looking more like a player escaping their previous contract and signing with another team as soon as they were able. I wasn't thrilled that he had filed for a "career ending" injury claim and ended up "ending" his career for one lockout-shortened season. I know he didn't have any kind of malicious intent behind his return, but in my mind he ceased to be a Blazer and became a Timberwolf. After that, there was no sense in retiring his number. Had he (like Riverman suggested) followed up his retirement from Portland by stepping into a coaching role, I still would've supported retiring his number. As it stands, he retired from Minnesota and didn't have an outstanding enough tenure in Portland to warrant it.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/10/2013 9:28 AM

    Sorry B Roy you lost your ambassador of goodwill status when you signed with the Timberwolves. You were great but it was not long enough to deserve your number retired. Maybe in 10 years but not now.
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  1. tanneralan
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    Posted 08/10/2013 3:30 PM

    I have mad respect for Brandon Roy, and I do agree Roy was more talented than half of the retired jerseys up in the rafters, he also did a fantastic job of leading the blazers out of the jail blazer era. But my vote would have to be no because he was only a Blazer for 5 years, we didn't even get the blazers to the western conference finals, his injuries the last two years as a blazer were a real set back to the franchise especially during the regular season.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/12/2013 9:28 PM

    I have to agree with cmeese on his assessment. Going to the Timberwolves was a major offense.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 08/13/2013 4:00 AM

    He's still a Timberwolf as far as I know.
    Do I think we should retire Brandon's jersey? Absolutely YES. But down the road, not right now. He's still a young man and there are probably a couple Blazers ahead of him that we'd like to see awarded jerseys in the rafters.
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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 08/13/2013 12:45 PM

    nope, bottom line is he's a traitor and he never go us out of the first round. wasn't here long enough to leave a legacy.


    a more important issue is why houston gets all the credit for clyde

  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/13/2013 12:56 PM

    Yeah, I'm kinda irritated with everyone thinking of Clyde as a rocket too... I mean COME ON!


    But just in response to Tobyus, Roy has officially retired from Minnesota as well. He isn't even listed on NBA.com in the players section.


    I think the next 5-10 years of Blazer basketball will really tell how significant Roy's career was here. It's surrounded on both sides with some serious negativity including the infamous jailblazer era and the Felton/Crawford/McMillan fiasco. Without a better team performance in the next few years, Roy's 5 year light in the darkness really is something that should be remembered. If better things come (and I think they will), nobody will want to reward 3 first-round exits and an early injury-forced retirement.

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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 08/13/2013 1:04 PM

    he should have never put on a timberwolves uniform, he embarrassed himself, on top of that he gave his little speech about how timberwolves drafted him and hes glad he can play for them, he spit on the fans IMO. we loved roy and i was at his miracle dallas game and it is probably the greatest single moment of my life as far as excitement and then he pissed it away by trying to get back at blazer management.

  1. BLASER
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    Posted 08/13/2013 1:07 PM

    yea he wasn't here long enough he repeatedly led us to first round exits broke some individual records was a great player and maybe could of led us to a deep playoff run if he stayed/was healthy long enough but that just isn't enough to retire a players jersey
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/13/2013 3:05 PM

    Posted By stacksfan2005 on 08/13/2013 1:04 PM


    i was at his miracle dallas game and it is probably the greatest single moment of my life as far as excitement


    So what you're saying is, you need to get some action? Lol... sorry, you set me up too well for it.


    Yeah, moments of brilliance aren't quite enough for a retired jersey. Plus, he shouldn't have gone to Minnesota since they were trying to sign players that would save them from the injury issues they already had. He probably should've known he would become a liability.

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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 08/14/2013 9:47 AM

    Its hard for me to answer this question. I am 31 and have been a Blazers fan since I was 5 or 6 Yo. I remember the players like Clyde the glide. But still IMO the greatest single player to put on a Blazers jersey as far as just per talent is B Roy. It is a dang shame Roy's knees didn't hold up, because he looked to be greatness. He was a natural leader, a closer in close games and 4rth qrt and OT, he made clutch shots in other teams all stars' faces. Yeah we had three 1st round exits, but that wasn't B Roy fault in all honesty. We played with a broken team/injured team all through B Roy's best years in Portland. Also IMO Roy significantly shortened his career in Portland forcing himself off the DL at least once against MD advice, back always early from injury so that he could contribute, so that we could hopefully win a title. Because as far as I think Roy and Mcmillan for that matter saw it, Portland had a legit window for a couple of years with a presumably healthy Oden to win a title. So Roy pushed himself and played all his quality seasons here in Portland and showed a hell of a lot of heart. Of course as we all know ultimately that doesn't make any difference, Oden and Roy go down with serious injury and we scrap what is left with the remaining pieces. 

    So long story short IMO essentially sacrificing your knees and career to try and get a team a title and giving it your all, deserves a retired number, but Roy going to Minnesota did leave a sour taste, so not now but eventually.

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/14/2013 12:24 PM

    The Portland Trail Blazers announced on Twitter Wednesday that guard Mo Williams will not wear jersey No. 7 as originally planned.

    Williams will instead wear No. 25, previously assigned to Earl Watson, whose new number is still to be determined. As of now, no Blazers player will wear No. 7, Brandon Roy's old number.

    Williams has worn No. 25 throughout his career. He told reporters during his introductory press conference that he hadn't intended to wear Roy's number but that his top three choices were already taken.

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/14/2013 1:01 PM

    I remember well his initial presser.  If I was a betting man I'd wager the reasoning given behind "choosing" #7 was born not of Mo's son...rather of the PR dept running interference and damage control.  Alas...I am not a betting man...in fact, I don't even like Vegas, save the weather.


    Interesting development.  Thank you CT.  


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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/14/2013 1:16 PM

    Yes Sir.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/14/2013 3:31 PM

    EARL WATSON GAVE 25 TO MO!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE SHALL WEAR #7 MUAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/14/2013 3:40 PM

    Classy move by Mo and Earl even though I disagree with any fan outrage over the issue, it was probably the right move coming into the organization without having to deal with the backlash.
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 08/14/2013 4:42 PM

    And renaming the Rose Garden would be... the opposite of classy.
  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/14/2013 6:10 PM

    That was my initial reaction too BF, I understand why they did it but it will take time for me to actually use the new name. It really came down to Paul Allen making a choice. Glad it wasn't a choice to relocate the team as Seattle found out with the Sonics. The Rose Garden bled money and McGowan was hired to stop the leaks. Vulcan didn't want to keep priming it with cash and they did what smart business folks usually do, restructured their investment. I'm glad the money will funnel into Portland instead of some international corporation but all that thinking just helps me get through the change.
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 08/14/2013 7:12 PM

    Candy coating a steamy poop, still means it's a steamy poop.
  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/14/2013 9:08 PM

    I had to laugh when someone commented they didn't care what the outside lighting looked like or the logo or fountain when they were running in the rain from the metro to the front gate to get to a game anyway.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/14/2013 9:20 PM

    Back on topic, I'd like to see BRoy do commentary on TBTV. He's fairly articulate and personable. Put him on the radio with Wheels and Tone, something. Would bring his career full circle and thrill a lot of fans.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/15/2013 2:25 PM

    Id like for Roy to become an assistant in some capacity. I wonder if it is a conflict of interest for him to take a job with us while he's still getting paid by us.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/16/2013 11:35 AM

    I think the number change is even worse than him having the number in the first place. Now we're acknowledging that this franchise is still holding on to the past era (except the building name of course). Rasheed was allowed to wear TERRY PORTER'S number because it wasn't retired yet. You can't convince me B-Roy's impact was more significant than TP's.

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/16/2013 11:37 AM

    I just had a thought as I was clicking "post reply": maybe the plan is to retire Brandon's number some time this year since he's no longer a Timberwolf or a free agent. That would be the only thing that could justify the change in my opinion. But I still don't think Roy's number should be retired at this point or probably ever.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 08/16/2013 2:36 PM

    Mo has worn #25 his entire career and is on a 2 year deal.  Watson doesn't expect to see much play time and is at the end of his career, content in his role to provide veteran mentorship off the court and in the locker room.  Watson just made a classy choice cause he's a nice guy, and still no word on what number he will decide on (but it won't be #7).
  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/16/2013 6:14 PM

    Mo is going to rock the house! I predict he's a 6man of the year contender!
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/16/2013 6:18 PM

    ^ Agree 100% BF.

    Watson already leading by example, making a contribution to the development of team chemistry and before opening night.  Safe to say the word mutiny may be safely in the rear view.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/16/2013 6:27 PM

    Watson probably just got a check from Mo...

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/16/2013 6:38 PM

    Watson will probably be a coach someday
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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 08/19/2013 11:53 PM

    watson should have taken 7 and said cause roy is a traitor

  1. BLASER
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    Posted 08/20/2013 2:11 AM

    how was roy a trader? we amnestied him
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/20/2013 8:07 PM

    Comments like that ................. smh

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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 08/20/2013 11:19 PM

    huge roy fan, but no. of course not. why would you?

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  1. Posted 08/21/2013 7:50 AM

    If Brandon Roy comes back to RipCity as an assistant coach, then YES, #7 should be raised to the rafters... since coming back to the city that loved his 52 points vs. the Suns and his deep 3 with .8 secs left vs. the Rockets would show his commitment and his love heart for the game... and that Red, Black, and White still runs through his veins... I also believe that everyone in Portland would love to see "The Natural" back on the bench along with LA and Wes... Just imagine the old Rookie of the Year teaching and mentoring the new... #BRINGROYBACK 

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/22/2013 8:49 PM

    I certainly would DallasTB.B-ROY will always be a fan favorite.
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  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 09/05/2013 10:02 PM

    I'm a bit late on this whole boat (it's been busy times), but I say no way in hell do you retire the mans jersey. It still bothers me to this day that he threw people under the bus, just to justify his underachieving play during the last season he was with the Blazers. How do you do that to a player like Andre Miller, who made the whole team better, unlike Roy. He had a few good years but it certainly did not warrant the retiring of his jersey. I kind of wish Mo would just take the number 7...

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