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  1. Mistafab322
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    Posted 03/27/2013 9:38 PM

    tonight against the nets just showed us why lenoard isnt ready too be a starter in the nba, reggie evans a double double getting out worked, out rebounded it was horrible D and jj hickson has been a really good addition to this team but it shows he cant be a center in this league and hes not. we need a center enough said. so in the offseason that should our #1 option is CENTER, we all knew that but tonight just showed us how easy teams can score on us in the paint. i know for a fact i wouldnt wanna make the playoffs cuz teams will dismantel us.

     

    pekovic,jordan,kaman,sanders,mozgov,okafor someone cuz this isnt gonna cut it in the nba night in night out.

    neil olshay i know hes watching this realizing what he has too do this offseason.

     

    sign pekovic to what he wants because thats the only way were gonna be able to get a legit center is you gotta $$$ pay up. then do a sign and trade with hickson get some bench players. i had enough with this jj hickson talk hes not gonna come back to portland in a bench role its not gonna happen he wants to start and he has put up the numbers too have a legit argument. so blazer nation what do you think ? cuz im fed up and had enough . its time next year to build around Lillard, La, & Batum even if that includes trading matthews,hickson,lenoard(dont want to just needs time) or freeland.

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/27/2013 10:15 PM

    leonard went hard on the glass when he was in the game

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/27/2013 10:19 PM

    I've been saying we need a center for a while now but most fans are convinced other wise 

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 03/27/2013 10:38 PM

    Yeah, you know you're playing bad when Reggie Evans gets more than 4 points on you. 22, wow. We need a centre, but we don't need to trade JJ. If Meyers Leonard and Joel Freeland can get better on defense, Freeland especially, he's already pretty good we don't need to trade or sign for one.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. CarlJ1
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    Posted 03/28/2013 12:52 AM

    A center is the least of this teams problem while true we do need one it doesn't excuse the fact that no one played with defensive effort and until this team is willing to put forth that effort I don't care who we get or have next year we are not going to get very far.
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 03/28/2013 1:49 AM

    Carl hit the nail on the head there. So many players on our team can be great defenders. Batum length and quickness is a dream come true, Wesley Matthews is so strong and physical, Lamarcus can be a decent shot blocker, but the blazers don't play defence at home.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/28/2013 3:14 AM

    jj will walk if we replace him trust me he's nba starter just not @ the center position and there are teams out there that are in need of a starting 4 like the rockets 

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/28/2013 3:55 AM

    @ Blaser...I think you may find that next year, as the cap continues to constrict, salaries dumped, that far fewer teams will be willing to overpay for ANYONE, even a starting PF with questionables like JJ.  As I wrote in the Nets game thread, we all witnessed Evans' performance Wednesday eve, prudent thought given to his helping to determine what JJ is worth.  The similarities in the two are noteworthy.  Take a look at what Evans' paycheck looks like.  You may be surprised.

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/28/2013 8:51 AM

    Reggie evans makes 1.6 million. The problem though is as i mentioned on another thread,a guy like Roy Hibbert makes 13 million a year. now is JJ as good a Hibbart? Hell no. But the fact that his numbers are actually alittle better then hibberts means his agent is gonna use that and probably want crazy money.Maybe a game like this would actually be some kinda leverage for the blazers to tell hickson's agent he's nuts.lol cause evans is a 1.6 million dollar player who dominated us last nite
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 03/28/2013 9:26 AM

    There are no similarities at all between JJ and Evans.  JJ can score and rebound but he does not play defense at all.  Evans was signed to defend, commit hard fouls and rebound. Outside of nights teams forget their 7th grade fundamentals and don't box out he can get some points but otherwise he is no help offensively. 

    Hickson is 24

    Evans is 32

    I told anyone who would listen last summer that signing Evans would be a good idea. Also said that about Asik. Damn how good would a front court of Asik, LA, Evans and Leonard be. 

    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/28/2013 12:31 PM

    6'9" 242 PF; 10.7 REBS/GM  below average FT shooter, limited offensively

    6'8" 245 PF; 10.4 REBS/GM below average FT shooter, limited offensively


    You're right.  Don't know what I was thinking.

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 03/28/2013 12:34 PM

    Im not going to beat up JJ one bit. The dude has been playing out of position all season and for the most part competently. Defense is a team thing last i checked. Plenty of teams play small ball,they just get after it every night. Look at Chicago last night against Miami. I hate excuses as much as i do fake fans.
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  1. uprised
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    Posted 03/28/2013 2:18 PM

    Last night changes nothing.  Evans averages 3ppg....It was a career night for him.  We knew that Leonard and Hickson have trouble defending.  The entire team got exposed for their poor team defense, it was just a particularly bad shellacking as opposed to the typical one.  We've been much more successful on defense against way better teams this season.  Again, nothing has changed.  Yes we need a center, but we need a lot of other things too.  Batum was garbage again, Wesley was MIA, Lillard and Hickson had very mediocre games.  This is was happens when the only guy who shows up is LMA.  

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 03/28/2013 3:53 PM

    LA scored last night but we lost because of that beating the Nets put on us on the glass or I should say Evans put on us.  LA getting 4 rebounds is not showing up at least not fully.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/28/2013 6:36 PM

    Well with LA playing with one foot I cant be mad at him because he still played very well.

    So the Meyers and Hickson were suppose to contain Brook Lopez and Reggie Evans.

    It didnt work


    A lot of fans are thinking signing Mayo or Tyreke Evans but does this solidify the fact that a center has to be a our biggest priority

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 03/28/2013 8:43 PM

    we should sign sanders to 4 year and 8 million dollars per year. that the only way we can get him. he gives us defense and rebounding skill. he can score once in a while. he is way better then hickson. then we can use 4 million left to sign maynor back. we can draft shabazz or victor is one is available in the draft to become our next 6th man. also draft moreland and russ smith in the 2nd round. bang we answer our center issue without signing hickson back. line up will be extremely to beat night and out.

    pg-lillard/maynor/smith

    sg-matthews/shabazz or victor/barton

    sf-batum/victor or shabazz/moreland

    pf-aldridge/freeland/claver

    c-sanders/leonard/freeland

    this team can finally rest super star DAMIAN LILLARD AND BATUM AND ALDRIDGE. they are our trio. this team will be like 2011-2012 thunders cause maynor also on that team, but we should be able to break 33 game winning streak before this core is gone.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/28/2013 9:27 PM

    @Damian Lilard- Larry Sanders is NOT a free agent. I would like to grab Shabazz or Victor but I doubt they will be there at 12


    No way we can win 33 games in a row



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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 03/29/2013 12:14 PM

    maybe make a sign and trade with hickson. we should trade hickson, future 1st round pick, and 2 million dollars cash for sanders and a 2nd round pick. bang hire me as the GM of the Blazers if you want to. i am all about looking at the team future and making them a title threat. any way, sanders is still a option if we make a sign and trade with hickson.
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/30/2013 3:42 AM

    33 games in a row! yes i see it happening next year.lol
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/30/2013 10:15 AM

    lol Chloe


    Milwaukee wont agree to that trade DamianLilard

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/30/2013 5:22 PM

    were trading nolan smith for lebron and going 82-0 next season 

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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 03/30/2013 7:51 PM

    Try signing samuel dalambert from the bucks for 4 yrs 20 mill which is 5 mill a year. Hes a fa this summer and didnt play much this season so the bucks most likely not try to retain him. He is a defensive minded center. He avgerages 15pts 13reb per 36 mins. 

    Also i would try to draft cj mccollum from lehigh. He is a great shooter, this year he is averaging 24 pts, 49% fg, 52% from 3. He is projected to be a 10-18 draft pick. He broke his foot earlier this year but he'll be healthy by the time he gets drafted. Played for a small school like lillard. Played 4 years in college, so he'll most likely be at the same maturity level as lillard. Great shooter like lillard. I dont think the broken foot will affect him during his pro career because the same thing happened to lillard when he was at weber. He could come off the bench. I can see him averaging 10-15 pts his rookie year. Imagine him playing with lillard.

    If youre trying to resign hickson, i say 4 yrs 20 mill, thats 5 mill a year, that should be enough to resign jj. Use the rest of the cap to resign maynor and elliot williams (if hes healthy, and he should be 1mill or so, only earned 1.4 mill this year and hasnt done anything, but can be a potential impact player if healthy).

    Pg lillard/maynor

    Sg matthews/williams/mccollum

    Sf batum/claver/barton

    Pf LA/hickson/freeland

    C dalambert/leonard

    Pretty much the same starting lineup with a defensive minded center, and a stronger bench with hickson and maynor, the rookies this year will also be more experienced, mccollum will give us a scoring threat off the bench, seems like a playoff team to me.

  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 03/30/2013 8:11 PM

    Also forgot to say, if jj does not want to resign, take a look at dejuan blair (restricted fa this summer). He only got paid about 1mill this year, and isnt used much by san antonio. He is alot cheaper than jj hickson, about the same size, and i believe he'll be almost as good as jj once he gets more playing time (only averages about 13 mins per game this season). You could probably save about 3 mill by signing blair over jj. But if jj is willing to come off the bench and recieve 5-6 mill a year, definately resign him.

  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/31/2013 12:02 AM

    williams over mccollum? wow mccollum is projected to be a strong 6th man his rookie year and williams hasn't proved he can stay healthy and mccollums cieling will be alot higher then williams is to begin with 

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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 03/31/2013 12:37 AM

    Yeah williams just popped into my head first so i wrote him first i wasnt necessarily saying williams should be matthews backup.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/31/2013 11:23 AM

    yea I still don't really know what to really expect from williams he hasn't really played a whole lot 

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 03/31/2013 1:29 PM

    i agreed but if signing blair, we can use a extra 2 million to trade that cash for other sf, maybe nash would be good. you guy need to start realizing that the 2nd round have huge potenial. so put our 2 picks in the 2nd round in so we know the whole team
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 03/31/2013 1:49 PM

    i rather have blair then hickson cause he cheaper and they both are double-double machine when given mins. i say no williams cause he will never be good. he the next oden. i would rather sign aminu cause he would be a perfect back up to batum.

    lillard/maynor

    wesley/mccollum/barton

    batum/aminu/claver

    aldridge/blair/freeland

    dalembert/leonard

    this is easily a playoff team with veteran that can teach. center position, dalembert and leonard can play 24 mins. per night unless one break out. i think this is what it take to win. we have defense in wes, batum, dalembert, aldridge, and aminu. this team is excellant, defense win champ

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/31/2013 4:11 PM

    I  like that team DL. I would be very happy for that to be our roster for next season. 

    But I think we it would be good to have a very good shooter for our bench. Someone who is can dribble, not be a liability on D and be a lockdown shooter. Aminu is nice but he a defender and rebounder, our bench needs scoring. I think Wesley Johnson or maybe Webster might be a better fit. 

    Our bench could be dangerous with Maynor driving and dishing, Mccolum who shooting and creating for himself,     Blair rebounding and banging inside,     Leonard shooting his mid range jumpers and Slamming it Down,      Claver doing Claver,      Then we can have someone that can hit the open 3


    But I think the only way this team can be a second round threath or even a home court team in the west is if there is significant improvement in Damian LIllard, Meyers Leonard, and Nicolas Batum

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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 03/31/2013 5:21 PM

    what i would do is trade both of our second round picks for the highest 2nd round pick possible (mayber okc 31st pick), or trade to a team that doesnt need a first round pick, work something out with like okc or SA (28th and 29th pick) for their first rounder, draft tony mitchell from north texas. he was projected to be a lottery pick, but his numbers have dipped, maybe its because of him trying to do too much for his team (his team is 12-20 i believe)? idk...but he is a freakish athlete. 6'8, so he can play the 3, maybe even stretch 4. hes a great shooter for his size. his freshman year, he averaged 14.7 pts, 10.3 rebs, 3 blocks, and shot 57%fg and 44% from 3. this year his stats have dipped. his blocking abilities are still there, 2.7 per game, but he is shooting 44% fg and 30% from 3. again, maybe its him trying to do too much for his team, he shot 59 more 3s than last year.

    he reminds me of perry jones iii, but obviously he didnt get to play much because of kevin durant. but tony mitchell could get a solid 15 minutes per game here i think. i like aminu, but i think tony mitchell has the potenial to be a much better athlete in my opinion. aminu plays 27 mins a game for NO, so idk if NO is willing to let him go, hes restricted i think. mitchell is very athletic, can block shots, and can shoot the 3 when open.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpZGKZA5ges

    so our roster would be...

    pg lillard/maynor

    sg matthews/mccollum/williams (assuming hes shown us hes healthy and can play during summerleague)

    sf batum/claver/mitchell

    pf LA/(jj or blair)/freeland

    c dalambert/leonard

    i put claver first because if mitchell is chosen in the second round, the first round pick has to be given a chance first, and claver has shown us he can play in the second half of this season. i think this will be a very good team next year if niel olshey aquires these players. getting dalambert, blair, and drafting mccollum, mitchell is a realistic senario for this team. this is a playoff team for sure.


  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 03/31/2013 5:34 PM

    also i heard when niel olshey got hired last summer that he was trying to build and athletic team like a lob city. if so, definately draft tony mitchell. i think that if he is able to show some of his crazy dunks in the limited time he'll get in games, that he should join next years dunk contest

  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/31/2013 6:55 PM

    Yeah I think if there is a late first round guy or a second round guy that Olshey really likes he'll go after him.

    Teams that are above salary cap will want to give up their first rounders. Blazers can give maybe second round picks, Barton, some expiring contracts to pick up someone Allen and Olshey like

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/31/2013 7:22 PM

    I like both them teams if lillard actually works with gary payton in the off season I think we could see improvements next year on his defense 

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 03/31/2013 8:44 PM

    tony is a bust. maybe draft cj lesile as he seem to be the next andre igoudala or draft allen crabbe as he can be a dangerous scoring off the bench. anyway this thread was about center. i think that dalembert can be the answer with leonard split mins. this team have defense in the starting line up as gary payton say that he will work with lillard with his defense. this team has everything from defense to dangerous 3 point shooting trio to post mover in the starting5, but the bench should be more productive as leonard and maynor become a ounch with crabbe 3 point shooting. we would still sign blair instead of jj

    lillard/maynor/cj

    wesley/cj/crabbe

    batum/crabbe/claver

    aldridge/blair/freeland

    dalembert/leonard

    this team has offense punch from the bench in mccollum, crabbe, leonard. i think this team is unstoppable and a potential 3 or 2 seed in the west only if gary teach damian

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  1. Logic
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    Posted 03/31/2013 9:24 PM

    Trade J.J. Sure he'll have a couple nights where he gets 15+ rebounds or highlight dunks. But he doesnt play defense. And that's the blazers biggest need. I don't remember the last time he got a block.We need a center who can play defense and will pass. Larry Sanders is a great idea. Someone like Joe Pryzbilla would be nice.He didn't care about scoring he wanted to play defense,he was a solid block.

    I am a fan of Victor Claver Psyching out his weak minded defenders.
  1. Logic
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    Posted 03/31/2013 9:26 PM

    Dalembert or Blair at Center. and put jj at backup PF

    I am a fan of Victor Claver Psyching out his weak minded defenders.
  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 03/31/2013 9:55 PM

    Sanders isnt even a free agent ._. and we only need blair if jj isnt going to resign for a reasonable price.

  1. Logic
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    Posted 03/31/2013 10:24 PM

    We could get Blair even if we do stay with Hickson. If He's having a bad night put Blair in who can play great defense.

    I am a fan of Victor Claver Psyching out his weak minded defenders.
  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 04/01/2013 12:24 AM

    it is not possible to do both. lets say we did sign dalambert and we give him 5-6 mill. resigning hickson will be another 5-6 mill. drafting mccollum will be about 3-4 mill because he is a lottery pick, another 500k for a second rounder. that is already 13.5-15.5 mill spent over this summer. 13-14 mill is our projected cap space for this summer i think. so i would let jj walk. trading jj is pretty much impossible because he has his bird rights (he can approve or decline any trade involving him), and he wouldn't want to waive his rights to be traded to another team because that might affect him getting traded and such later in his career. without jj, we would only be using about 8-10 mill. that is 3-5 mill more to get another fa (blair is probably worth 2-3).

  1. freddead
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    Posted 04/01/2013 12:35 AM

    hes a rookie?.....are centers not allowed to be rookies.....
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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 04/01/2013 12:54 AM

    ...whos a rookie? i didn't see anyone write that centers aren't allowed to be rookies...that doesnt even make sense ._.

  1. Logic
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    Posted 04/01/2013 10:01 AM

    hoang.. I didnt say anything about drafting mcollum...
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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 04/01/2013 5:17 PM

    It doesnt matter who you would draft with the 12th pick, you would still need to pay him 3-4mill. I just said mccollum because thats who i think they should draft. Keeping hickson means we cant get blair that was my point

  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 04/01/2013 6:10 PM

    Well we can get Hickson and Blair because we can use bird rights to sign JJ but I wouldnt sign both

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 04/01/2013 6:12 PM

    Also the 12 pick in the draft gets paid 2 million in the rookie season

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 04/01/2013 6:47 PM


    Posted By Siccolo on 04/01/2013 6:12 PM
    Also the 12 pick in the draft gets paid 2 million in the rookie season.

    Spot on observation young man.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 04/01/2013 9:40 PM

    Thanks Bdawg! :)

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 04/02/2013 3:58 PM

    so we are saying that dalembert and blair is the best for this team. in the draft we can go after mccollum and lebryan nash to back up lillard and batum. also draft moreland as he will be the next camby. this team is good enough to be a no.4 seed. also sign maynor qualifying offer. blair, dalembert, and maynor contract combine should make about 12 million. blair get 4year and 4 million and dalembert get 4 year and 4.5 million. so combine that with maynor contract it easily 12 million. i was thinking maybe we might need babbitt 3 point punch. so give him 1 year and 500k.starting 5 is solid same as the bench.

    lillard/maynor/mccollum

    wesley/mccollum/barton

    batum/claver/nash

    aldridge/blair/moreland

    dalembert/leonard/freeland

    i think this team is terrific we got defense in starting 5 since gary payton will help our superstar damian lillard defense.  the bench would produce let say 54 point at the very best. but at the worst it would be 30 points. i can't wait next season if we get this team. remember defense win champ

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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 04/02/2013 4:13 PM

    How are we going to draft mccollum, nash, and moreland? I understand drafting mccollum with the 12th pick, but i dont see moreland or nash on any mock drafts. Are they going to be 2nd round picks? 

  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 04/02/2013 5:11 PM

    Are you saying Blair to a 16 million contract and Dalembert to a 18 million dollar contract or Blair to a 1 million for 4 years and Dalembert 1million for 4 years????????????????

    Blair can be had for less than 16mil and Dalembert will want 5-6 per year

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    The Blazers were winning!  That is the key word, were.  Blazers are living proof that you can live and die by the jumper.  Lately it has been dying.

     

    Thank God they are 19 games over 500.  Mayb...

  7. Spencer hawes

    Started by jamsmashers on 02/13/14 at 1:03 PM

    Hawes will be a hot commodity by the trade deadline, I would think the sixers could find a better offer.

    However, I do believe Mo Williams could have somewhat of  a high trade value. Olshey needs to make a deal to get a big man while we...

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