What's going on with Nate?
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  1. J.D.
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    Posted 11/04/2009 6:37 PM

    I noticed this a lot last season and it seems like it's getting way worse this season. Nate hardly ever goes with the hot hand like he should. His substitutions have become so mechanical that it doesn't matter how good someone is playing, they're still going to get pulled from the game at the same time every night. It seems to me like Nate has lost a couple games for the team this year becuase of awfully-timed substitutions. I've never been one to criticize Nate because he's a great guy but is anyone else noticing this same stuff too? It's not that hard to just play whoever gives your team the best chance to win, but it's like he just has some wacky rotation planned out for evvery night that he uses regardless of how the game is going. What do you all think about this? I'd like to see how everyone feels about his coaching job this season too...
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  1. whatinthebluehell
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    Posted 11/05/2009 8:12 PM

    Agree 100% JD! Nate is too worried about getting guys their minutes and not at the match up on the court. For a coach that emphasizes Defense, his defensive substitutions are so questionable. vs. Denver he neglects to put Martell or Travis on Melo, since both showed earlier in the game that they were making shots difficult for him. vs. Houston Martell gets buried on the bench throughout the game, after he proved to be force the first home game vs. Houston. Andre only gets 23 minutes and the Steve Blake experiment against Aaron Brooks continues. Nate! Steve Blake guarding Brooks didn't work 6 games in the playoffs last season, and didn't work during the season opener, stop the insanity! Finally, you can sense that the Blazers are so mechanical and waiting to open up the offense but we continue to see a slow half court game. If there was any indication of what the Blazers are capable of doing with their young line up it would be opening night when they fastbreaked their way to almost a 20 point lead. I think Nate is a great guy but the best lineup needs to be on the court. Winning will take care of all the gripe about playing time, and stats individuals want.
    I am a fan of WINNING!
  1. Linda4Blazers
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    Posted 11/07/2009 2:37 AM

    Nate is a nice guy, and I would never say that he was not. But, honestly, he is not the right coach for this time. The last two years proves it. We have lost some games because of him putting back in a team member who is cold and is causing more harm to the team, then good. His defense methods are not working. Their are no offense astplans. Even though we won against the Spurs, we could have easily lost the game. The Blazers are making errors that need to be addressed, or we will never see a playoff for a long time. The Blazers are not good outside shooters, but they shoot from the outside, instead of going to the hoop to not only make baskets, but to get fouls to go to the free-throw line. We give so many opposing teams many points which have lost games for us, because we either foul them or do not have defensive plays. Finally, at the Spurs game, I got so upset that I yelled out, "GO TO THE HOOP!" I figure Nate doesn't tell them, then they will keep shooting from the outside. We need to go to the hoop. There are so many fans around us that are asking this same question: Why do the Blazers not have any PLANNED PLAY on the offense. They come down with the ball and one can tell that they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. They spend way too much time dribbling and holding the ball which runs down the time clock. They did this two times in a row. What is up with Nate? We do have talent on this team, but he is not the right coach to pull this team together. When we left the RG after the last home game before the Spurs game, everyone was headed to the parking lot complaining about Coach McMillan. He is the coach of the team! He should have plans and the team should know what they are too do during the game. It is frustrating, and it is not fun - it is boring sitting at a NBA game, which is being played worse than a high school team. That is totally ridiculous. Nate is not the right coach for this team, and another coach who knows how to pull the talent together will get us to the playoffs. This has gone on for 3 years. We need to handle the ball better. Loose hands does not help. Not having a plan does not help! Seeing Nate just stand there doing nothing, does not help. Our Championship year, Coach Jack Ramsey was so into our team. There were all together as one. He had hand signals and plans where every player knew where they were supposed to be and what they were suppose to do. Ask Maurice Lucas, he was on that team and he knows what was expected. On a postive note, I think Greg Oden is really playing great for his first healthy appearance on our team. He played so great against the Spurs and look at the points he achieved. He and Prysbilla had bad calls against them, when there was nothing there. Greg stays positive on the court and I think we will see great things coming from him in the future. Until we can have great offensive plays and defensive plays, we won't even be able to get past the Lakers, and we sure will not get to the playoffs. I am so frustrated and dissappointed at what is going on. I think Terry Porter would be a great match-up with this Blazer team. Like I said, nothing against Nate personally, but he is not the right coach for this team. Blazer management should take a close look at that, as fans are getting tired of this type of game that Nate has them playing. The team deserves better. Just my opinion, but I saw angry fans in the last home game before we played the Spurs, and they are getting tired of seeing all these erros which have lost games for us.
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  1. Dan
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    Posted 11/07/2009 9:59 AM

    YOu guys r crazy. Everytime the team goes in a bad strech, everyone starts bashing Nate. Typical. When the team starts winning again, these #%@@% will shut the h up.
    I am a fan of the Rose Garden
  1. whatinthebluehell
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    Posted 11/07/2009 2:20 PM

    Dan, last nights win vs. not so good Spurs team should have been a 20 point blow out with the Blazers #2's out there. The win's have been ugly, and loses even uglier. I'm a fan of a the Blazers, but if you sat through the 5 minute stretch in the second quarter and 6 minute stretch in the fourth where the Blazers sat around (literally) waiting for something to happen on offense, your conviction of what's going on might change. They were lost! and that goes back to the leadership of the Blazers. Nate has been inept to make chances to the offense system and putting in the correct lineups when needed. I'm not saying get rid of Coach Nate, he just needs to stop worrying about making guys happy with playing time and open up something on offense. If you noticed in last nights game, the players made the biggest impact when they got out and fast breaked, and when Nate went back to his slow half-court game, the momentum was lost and S.A. got back into it. I'm baffled! This type of play will result in another 1st round playoff departure.
    I am a fan of WINNING!
  1. KingKoopa
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    Posted 11/07/2009 9:31 PM

    A lot of people have credited Nate with being a coach who can take a 'bad' team and turn them into a 'good' team, getting more from them than what most expected, and I completely agree. He did that with the Sonics and he definitely did that in his first few years here, and credit should be given where credit is due. That said, I can't shake the feeling that he is in a bit over his head with this team and roster, and he has a ways to go before proving that he can be the kind of coach who can take a 'good' team and turn them into a 'great' team.
    I am a fan of Marcus Camby! :)
  1. Travis
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    Posted 11/08/2009 10:39 PM

    Well the regular season whatever. With that being said Dan the team can turn around and most will probably stop talking about it but the talks will return in the playoffs. If Nate can not fundamentally change his coaching style to adjust to playoff basketball we will be disappointed every year. I hope he does but this team has gotten better on talent alone over the past few years and there is no proof of the Nate effect. I really hope there needs not adjustments and he works out and we win a championship sometime over the next 3 years. The signs we have seen this year early on and last year playoffs show some issues and to ignore them or make excuses is dumb.

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  1. BAILUSOUT B-LESS
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    Posted 11/08/2009 11:44 PM

    I can think of a lot of coaches that would make the Players on this squad a better TEAM! PERIOD. And I think thats it in a nut shell....... Roy should be playing basketball not worrying about the teams affairs. TWO points tonight from him means NATES not doing his job and MILLER is overdoing his. This cluster F of a coaching system is driving me and my naborhood up the wall. This team is gifted but Nate is just to inexperenced to coach it...
    I am a fan of Bayless and his attitude to WIN!!! Most positive hard working player on the roster!
  1. Dman
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    Posted 11/09/2009 8:01 AM

    I'm glad to see more people are coming around to what I have been saying the past two years. There is an old saying, "Ride the horse that brung ya." Meaning, if you have someone out there with a can't miss night, DON'T PUT EM ON THE BENCH just because that's your player rotation. And don't give me that, "they need to rest" junk either. These are 25 year old athletes in the prime of life, and when they are hitting shots, the adrenaline will keep them going way past what there fatigue will limit them to.

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  1. Gabriel
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    Posted 11/09/2009 8:57 PM

    i agree
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  1. LikeMikee
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    Posted 11/11/2009 1:52 PM

    Nate just needs to relax,he has so much pressure from the fans about the minutes . Hes just trying to figure out what lineup to use against running teams and half court teams.We will start winning!
    I am a fan of the uprising talented portland trailblazers
  1. KingKoopa
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    Posted 11/12/2009 12:37 AM

    Nate lets Andre start running the offense from the floor, the Blazers start winning. Coincidence? (to be truthful, I'm being a little bit of a devil's advocate here. Fans could be running the offense and we'd win games against the teams we've been playing.) In all seriousness though, I'm glad to see our lineups and rotation have seemed to normalize a bit more, Nate is finding everyone's roles. I definitely don't expect the 3-guard starting lineup to last (oh, how I wish we had Batum!), and I expect it'll be Blakey getting sent to the bench to helm the 2nd unit, but I can't say I disagree with that choice if it is what finally comes to pass. R.A.M.B.O. really is the best starting lineup we could ask for, and with Roy playing better off the ball and likely steadily improving throughout the year, he and Miller will be a deadly 1-2 combo. Webster has been showing up on the defensive end a bit more lately, and I like that he gives us a shooter to spread the floor a bit more, but by the end of the season I'd like to see the lineups like this:

    Starters-
    Andre, Brandon, Nic, Lamarcus, Greg

    Bench-
    Blake, Rudy, Webster, Travis, Joel

    Keep Bayless ready for when we need a spark, and dole out minutes to the kids and old folks (Cunningham, Pendergraph, Howard, and Mills) as the opportunities present themselves.
    I am a fan of Marcus Camby! :)
  1. Lordstgm
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    Posted 11/13/2009 8:33 PM

    What is wrong with us in Portland?  Why do we bash on Nate when we lose a few games?  Why do we bash on Nate when we get blowouts because Brandon Roy gets two points, regardless of the score at the end of the day?

    I suppose you could make the argument that his substitutions come at less-than-optimal times, but there is no reason to ask for a new coach simply because of this one thing!  Pure and simply, McMillan knows how to turn a team of losers into a team of winners.  He knows how to make a group of young men into a unit, a team, and a unified force, regardless of what matchups he chooses to put on the floor at any point in time.

    Don't believe me?  The stats speak for themselves.  In his first year, the Blazers won one out of four games.  By last year, that number was up to three out of four games.  Even winning 50% is considered good in the NBA!  Yet when we go 50% in six games, we naturally gravitate to blaming the coach.  Pitiful.
    I am a fan of Nathan McMillan, who has turned player potentials into a force to be afraid of. Go Blazers!
  1. tricialana
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    Posted 11/14/2009 7:19 PM

    I completely agree Lordstgm.  How many teams out there are rotating through two sets of amazing players and at the same time, they aren't all veterans are they? ...I gather from what I've seen of Nate thus far, just this year alone, he's calculating, he's measuring, he's rolling with the team.  The season is WAY to early to be bashing, WAY to early!  FIVE STRAIGHT ON THE ROAD PEEPS...hasn't been done since when 2002?
    I am a fan of Kicking butt and taking names!
  1. KingKoopa
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    Posted 11/15/2009 1:42 AM

    Who said they wanted a new coach? Certainly not me. I don't think it makes me 'pitiful' or calls my judgment into question if I don't agree with some of the tendencies our coach has either. I'm not out for a lynching or firing here, I just wonder sometimes about Nate's substitutions, rotations, and lineups, that's all. Isn't that what these forums are for anyways? Sharing opinions, discussing team strategy, etc? If these boards exist only as a breeding ground for homers, well... count me out. I love the team, and will to my dying day, but love doesn't have to be blind.
    I am a fan of Marcus Camby! :)
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 11/15/2009 11:56 AM

    What nobody seems to be looking at is the fact that Portland has a tendency to suffer injuries. If we shorten the lineup now then if someone gets injured or needs some rest, then we end up putting in someone who is cold and inexperienced. Why do you think in the blow outs that Juwan Howard never plays. It is because Nate knows that Howard will always be ready. The more time he can give to Cunningham to grow, the better this team will be in the long run. It is the same reason why it is beneficial to sit Patty Mills on the bench this season rather than sign Ime Udoka. It isn't just about this week's games. It is about winning at the end of the season and winning in the Playoffs. Last year, Roy was the only one that really showed up against Houston. Playoff experience was some of it and a shallow bench with limited game experience was the rest. That is why Bayless never got to play against Houston. Now he is getting some game time and at the end of the year he will be better for it. 

    Nate took a young Seattle team to the Playoffs that had no sense being there in the first place. Yet he brought the best out of all those players. These are the same guys that make up the OKC Thunder people minus Ray Allen and Desmond Mason. That's it. Only those two players.

    It is common that forward thinkers get criticized for their tactics and ideas. The Wright brothers were ridiculed and called crazy, Einstein was looney, Thomas Edison was a dreamer and wasted his time. You "fans" that are calling for his head are too caught up in the here and now and have been spoiled by the success of last season. I agree with what Canzano said about atleast the most vocal of fans here in the state of Oregon. You don't know how to handle success. That goes for Beaver Fans, Blazer Fans and Duck Fans. I am a Blazer/Ducks fan, but I can be realistic about all this. You need to calm down and not look how it might be slowing them down right now, but rather look at how it benefits the Blazers in February through June.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. RedRudy5
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    Posted 11/15/2009 3:47 PM

    I agree we need to look at the whole picture Ie the long season and not just each game. Part of what makes this team great and maybe somewhat unique is the ability to change up the players to give a different look that other teams haven't already figured out how to stop.
    I am a fan of Turning this season around! Time to show some pride!!
  1. SithLord13
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    Posted 11/17/2009 1:48 AM

    I don't think the offseason went as we planned and now we are suffering the consequences. Nate is now trying to utilize what he has in the best way possible. Now I understand the reason of pursuing Hedo so much. Assuming Roy stays at the 3 spot, Hedo would have been used as a solid offensive weapon despite his defensive struggles. He sure wasn't the right guy but now at least there is some logic. Looking at the bigger picture is more important. We'll make the playoffs but what matters more is are we going to be ready this time? Our game plan looks more like a playoff team now so we can assume that Nate is trying to build for the future. Rudy didn't start as well as expected and we are not using either of the rookie PFs or Bayless as we would like to but I think Nate'll get to that as season goes along. Right now even the vets are at the stage of adjusting to a new style.
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  1. malinore
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    Posted 11/18/2009 10:04 PM

    Game against Detroit.  In the third quarter Blazers shoot 50+%.  Are dominating the Pistons.  The five on the floor are working together and getting many fast break baskets and defense has the pistons shooting threes.  Start of fourth quarter those on the floor are basically on bench and withinin five positions the tempo of the game changes.  Shooting 25%, five turnovers in a row and all of a sudden the blazers are fighting for their life.  When the "starters" are put back into the game they have no rhythm and the confidence is gone.  All of a sudden it is a two point game.  Now understand that this is a coaching decision that was also used in the game against the Hawks.  All of these players want to win.  They understand what it takes and work very hard to be successful.  By the way they get paid fairly well for the priviliage.  Realize that I am a blazer fan who enjoys the games, but watching the games not being finished off is not acceptable.  These are coaching decisions, or the lack of them.  It really doesn't make any difference who is on the floor as long as they are working as a unit.  They are pros.  At any one given moment they can all shine.  It is the group not the individidual.  Those are facts and decisions that should already be understood by any pro coach.  The fans pay for the tickets to watch pro performaces from all of those in the organization.  Top down.  Much work has gone into fixing the jail blazers and now they are back on track.  The message to the coach is quit overcoaching these guys, and changing the lineup for no apparent reason. Changing the lineup more than three at atime will almost always cause a shift in momentum.  That is not fair to the fans, players or organization.   That's fact not anger.
  1. Lordstgm
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    Posted 11/21/2009 12:13 PM

    Malinore, maybe McMillan should have put YOU in the game, so you could have done better and saved the game!
    I am a fan of Nathan McMillan, who has turned player potentials into a force to be afraid of. Go Blazers!
  1. malinore
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    Posted 11/25/2009 5:16 PM

    If you watched the game they didn't need me they need to be allowed to play.  What the matter with watching stastistics.
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 11/25/2009 10:57 PM

    Coach is still trying to feel this team out. We already added a pretty big piece in Andre Miller and then the two huge injuries to Batum and Outlaw have thrown a wrench into the machine. We've also got to remember that Martell has been very inconsistent so far this year, so it is going to be hard to find guys who can mesh well together on the court.

    We are 12-5 right now so things could be a lot worse. The only thing I wish Nate would be more lenient on is the 2 foul rule with Oden, but I think after the GSW massacre that he said he needs to let Greg grow as a player and that means sometimes trusting him to not get that 3rd foul before halftime.

    Also, it looks like the defensive minded philosophy of Coach is finally starting to rub off on his players as the Blazers are tops in the league at opposing field goal percentage and points per game. Let's give this young season some time to grow before we all reach for the panic button.
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  1. whatinthebluehell
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    Posted 11/26/2009 10:45 AM

    I agree with letting the young season some time to grow, but what is lacking, is an offensive game plan. Every game we see 2 o 3 stretches of 5 mintues of black hole basketball. The ball never reaches below the free throw line extended and players are putting up 20 ft. prayers as the shot clock expires. I've watched a lot of basketball played by other teams this season, and the offense by leaps and bounds is one of the most un-timely and un-prescribed in the NBA. If you want to see continuity watch the Spurs or Lakers then compare that to the Blazers, it's like watching the JV's vs. the Varsity team. I love my Blazers, but there needs to be some offensive mindness going on, in the Blazers coaching staff.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 11/26/2009 10:55 PM

    I think once we get more comfortable feeding Oden and Aldridge into the post (this is where Andre helps), the offense should open up more. In the NBA, if you don't have a post presence, you might as well just shoot jumpers, because the opposition is just going to pack the lane.

    Also, Oden's passing out of the post has been a thing of beauty this season. Once the team gets accustomed to his game down low, we will see more cuts to the hoop and the offense should look a lot like the late 90's/early 00's Blazer teams when we have Sabonis dropping dimes all over the court.

    Our biggest problem is ball movement/player movement. As long as we can continue to move without the ball and make cuts to the hoop, the offense should not stall out. In the past, I have noticed a lot of the offense being stagnant , but the team has done a better job of going to the basket. We aren't an elite team just yet, so still expect some offensive lapses, but as long as they minimize those lapses, we will continue to rise.
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