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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/19/2013 5:24 PM

    Can someone explain it to me? Even people that agree he will be back this year seem to be adamant that he'll be traded at some point.


    Is it the new CBA, is it just paranoia, or is there some glaring truth that I'm missing. You know how Kobe, Dirk, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Dwayne Wade, and the majority of people in the Hall of Fame played with one team for over 10 years? Why is that impossible now? Is it because everyone thinks Portland is forever destined to lose? Is it because people think Damian Lillard is muscling him out of the spotlight (which incidentally LaMarcus hates anyway)?


    I really don't get it. And it's not even that I don't get why fans are saying it; I don't get why Olshey seems to be entertaining the thought; I don't get why Aldridge's camp is starting talks about it.


    Have I completely lost touch with the NBA? Or is it the NBA that completely lost touch?


    Somebody explain it, please. I feel like I'm too stupid to figure it out on my own...

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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 07/19/2013 5:38 PM

    It's just summer babble. Got to keep viewers interested when there's not much basketball to talk about. You could talk about Summer League I suppose? But everyone's kinda gettin' sick about discussing Blazer losses.

    Now see, other teams are still making moves. There's some big name players still showing up on new squads. So other team's fan bases can babble about how there new team is going to look with their recent acquisitions. But over here in Portland, we busted out all our moves quickly, and so there's not of new information to discuss with our new summer roster that hasn't been discussed already.

    So like I said, you have 2 things to discuss over here. Summer League, and other teams trying to improve their roster by stealing LaMarcus from us. I'd much rather talk about Summer League. That's real basketball, not fantasy basketball.
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  1. Logic
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    Posted 07/19/2013 10:06 PM

    When Lamarcus Aldridge got drafted in 2006 Nba draft, Lamarcus was excited to see that his childhood dream has come true. What he didn't know is when he shook the hand David Joel Stern he got brainwashed, sending a microscopic chip into his brain that made winning the most important thing in the world. But after David retired he upgraded the chips to level 5, making every player think they have to be on a winning, non rebuilding team. The phase has only just started my friend.  HA      HA                    HA...
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/20/2013 1:17 AM

    I guess players don't have the same competitive drive or patience anymore. He wants to win and contribute to a TITLE contender now. After LeBron the best player of this era left Cleveland NOBODY wants to win a championship with their own team. It used to be you try your hardest and give EVERYTHING thing to your teams unless they trade you. Then when your older you can sign with a contender. I can't blame Aldridge doe

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 07/20/2013 9:34 AM

    idk he was reported talking to olshey in vegas about trade scenarios and t rob isn't gonna forever be a bench player
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 07/20/2013 9:36 AM

    plus resigning aldridge when his contract expires will put us over the cap afte we resign lillard barton and meyers leonard
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/20/2013 11:28 AM

    Blaser, there's no way we sign Leonard and Barton before signing Aldridge. The new CBA is going to lower the going price for all these marquis players. We can offer LaMarcus a longer contract than any other team. Lillard gets resigned, Barton and Leonard are not even close to the level of LA or Dame. in two years we have no idea what the roster will look like. I'm sure Olshey will look at trades for the next two seasons but if this team is successful, I think LaMarcus will stay here. Example, Nate Robinson after a stellar playoff run doesn't even have a job next season at this point. The times are changing.
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 07/20/2013 4:32 PM

    well in 2 years well see but if we/he wants a trade to a contender now's the time to do it before his trade value falls because of age but his agent has already been talking to olshey about trade possibilities and scenarios who's agent talks about trades if the player they manage didn't wanna leave?  
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/20/2013 6:26 PM

    Agents represent lots of clients and juggle the needs of them really to make that commission. They are looking for the most money in the shortest amount of time. Chicago came up because LA and Rose share the same guy. They're all trying to mimic Miami...put allstars together. If an agent comes up with a possibility that interests their client, they'll bring it to the attention of all concerned parties. It's just what they do and they never stop trying. I wouldn't read too much into it. If LA's agent comes up with something he can't ignore, he might decide to jump but he has not spoken out about it so it's a non issue at this point. Sure generated a lot of comments though.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/20/2013 6:30 PM

    Posted By BLASER on 07/20/2013 4:32 PM
    well in 2 years well see but if we/he wants a trade to a contender now's the time to do it before his trade value falls because of age but his agent has already been talking to olshey about trade possibilities and scenarios who's agent talks about trades if the player they manage didn't wanna leave?  


    Who's to say his trade value doesn't increase? He's in his prime, not past it. Look at Duncan..Lamarcus is the next Duncan. LA could play at a high level for 8-9 more seasons before decline becomes apparent, maybe even longer.
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  1. Clyde Da Glyde
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    Posted 07/20/2013 7:33 PM

           Neil  Oshey and company are not  dumb or fool's , La Marcus Aldridge is the key piece to our roster. From what our roster is looking like right now definitely LA is the key peice to this team. LA is our main and only low post ligit big man on our team with low post moves ,and usually  other teams seldom needs to double team him on the block's and from that it will definitely open up looks from three's for the likes of batuum,west ,lilliard,wright,claver,CJ,grabbe just to name a few. So yeah no worries RIP City Fans LA ain't going no where soon because his definitely one of the main key or should I say the most important key to our team success this year. GO BLAZERS !!!!!!

  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/21/2013 6:01 PM

    He's got a few low post moves. He's only going to get better playing with L.A. and Lillard.

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/22/2013 8:32 PM

    That's exactly what I'm talking about. I know that everyone's argument is that players want to play for a contender, but I don't really buy it logically. Right now, it looks like there are about 3 or 4 legitimate contenders based on proven performance. For all we know, Miami is the #4 seed in the East next year and the Clippers win the championship. I have a hard time believing EVERY NBA player has an attitude of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Not everyone can play for Miami (by the way, they'll be crying themselves to sleep and researching time travel once they realize how dumb it was to amnesty Miller). Are athletes just completely devoid of competitive edge these days? No. Of course not. I'm telling you, competitors like LaMarcus want to BEAT Miami, not just be a role player with them and polish an ill-gotten ring for the rest of their miserable lives.


    I don't buy the cap argument either. How in the world would the Blazers have less room to afford LaMarcus than Chicago?


    Also, to river's point, Aldridge is the next Duncan, and Lillard is basically another Tony Parker. Those two almost won ANOTHER championship even toward the end of their careers. You want to play for a contender? Make your own damn team into one... And I think Aldridge has old-school pride enough to do exactly that.

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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 07/23/2013 1:05 AM

    i agree with the miller part they'll miss him more then they think i think lillard stays here for his career the whole duncan and tony parker bit would work if we had pop as are coach but we dont and duncan>LMA especially in his prime id rather have lillard then parker though lillard is tougher and has better range and trading LMA might be good thing if T-Rob comes up big this next year 

  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 07/23/2013 7:21 AM

    Even if T Rob comes up big, he is nowhere near the type of scorer LMA is. Might be a better rebounder, might be a slightly better defender (LMA is good in his own right), but Lamarcus is the best scoring PF in the league.

    And I think Lillard will be better than Parker. Scorer, easily, he will have to work on his passing a bit. I think by this year, he will have a signature move. Tony Parker has his floater and his pull up mid range shot.

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/23/2013 12:10 PM

    I see the argument there, fred. But until the PF spot becomes an issue, I say keep LaMarcus. There's no point in trading him until T-Rob absolutely must be a starter. We FINALLY have depth at the 4 spot, and if we trade LaMarcus away without getting an equal value PF back (in my opinion, none exist) then we're back to a situation where we have a good starting 4 and nobody to back him up.

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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 07/24/2013 4:38 AM

    see but if we hold on to LMA to long we will just lose out not saying trade him right now i would like to wait atleaast a year just to see what happens but i say if we dont make it to the playoffs(were definitely a playoff team right now imo) and depending how we do in the playoffs im really just saying i wouldnt rule it out

  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 07/24/2013 10:10 AM

    our team will have a complete defense team. damian look like his defensive is his strength now. welsey and batum have super good perimeter defense. aldridge and lopez will force tough shot. aldridge ain't leaving this town. expect a title this year

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/24/2013 3:25 PM

    lol Blazers will never win a championship

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/24/2013 5:36 PM

    Theres the optimist that i know siccolo.

     

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/24/2013 7:28 PM

    hahaha I had to be a realist one time

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 07/24/2013 8:07 PM

    Win or lose, we love 'em. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/24/2013 8:38 PM

    Exactly

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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 07/25/2013 1:43 PM

    i like la staying here. and i can see him staying on board- i would not mind david lee and barnes or noah- and my personal fav brook lopez and joe johnson for wes/la- but the trades are not gonna be explored less la comes out and demands a trade
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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 07/26/2013 2:06 AM

    i wonder if the pelicans would trade anthony davis for LMA and wes(almost rather give batum wes is a beast defensively) 

  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 07/26/2013 3:02 AM

    I think that we should only explore trades for LA that will bring an established player into the lineup. We need someone to come in and contribute immediately. David Lee, Joakim Noah and Brook Lopez are the big men prospects. Or a move where we get Andre Drummond, Rodney Stuckey and a 1st round pick in 2014 for LA and Leonard may just be good enough. Stuckey is in there just to make the salaries balance somewhat. His deal is also expiring after this season. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/26/2013 10:26 AM

    I disagree, I don't think we should trade LA for a veteran. When we trade LA we need to trade him for picks and young prospects. Unless, Thomas Robinson, Leonard, or McCollum are ready for a big roles and have improved greatly.  I like the idea of grabbing Monroe, Cousins,  2014 draft picks.


    I think Drummond and Sanders are the centers that wont be traded 

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/26/2013 3:19 PM

    Wow,having the Lopez twins would combat Phoenix' Morris twins nicely. Not to mention giving us  identical two headed monsters in the post.
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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 07/26/2013 10:22 PM

    i say no to cousins no ty but anthony davis is going to be legit in a year or two and i really wish monty williams was are head coach i believe he's a fantastic coach and i think it sucks he was here at one point 

  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/27/2013 12:44 AM

    But don't all these scenarios get us back to the same supposed issue of losing a player once his contract is up?


    If we can't sign LaMarcus when he becomes a free agent, how in the world are we going to deal with guys like B. Lopez, Monroe, Cousins, or any of them? LaMarcus is arguably the best 4 in the league. If that's not a piece you pay for, why is DeMarcus freaking Cousins?


    It just looks like a revolving door of all stars to me. And I'm pretty sure the only way Portland is going to build a title contender is by keeping the all star caliber players that we draft.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/27/2013 1:19 AM

    But Lamarcus is older than the potential players we would be trading him to. When Damian, CJ, Robinson, Leonard and maybe Batum hit their ceilings Lamarcus will be on the decline. 

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/27/2013 9:34 AM

    LaMarcus is not old. He's entering prime time and his last game of the season had 30 pts, 21 rebounds. Who are you going to upgrade to? Answer, nobody. Portland has enough invested in LaMarcus, Wes and Nico to be a really world class team of starters. Why throw that away to gamble on another project? Just baffles me at times the lack of love LA gets from the fanbase. At 37 the Spurs fans would be in tears if Duncan left and LaMarcus is 28! I hope he retires and spends his entire career in Portland. LaMarcus is not a center, people need to realize that he's a true PF and one of the best. Thomas Robinson is a great pickup but he's not LaMarcus Aldridge by a long stretch.
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 07/27/2013 12:17 PM

    Exactly riverman. Lamarcus is getting older but that doesn't matter. Guy is in great shape, and his game is the type that you can play till you are 40. No problem. And we do not under any circumstances want David Lee. He is probably the worst defender in the NBA, right up there with Anderson Varejao, Big Al, Boozer and Griffin.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/27/2013 1:38 PM

    But Lamarcus will not be here in a couple years. You all are right that Lamarcus is a GREAT PF and will be for a while with his play style.. But the reason I'm suggesting trading him for these other younger prospects because we will be able to retain them for a longer period. There is no way that Lamarcus will stay on the Blazers past his contract. He is in the most trade rumors him in the league. He in his prime and wants to play for a contender soon. 


    I love Lamarcus but he has never said once that he wants to retire a Blazer or wants to stay past his current contract, if he did then I would be ecstatic.


    Can't be too attached to players that are in trade rumors and has a good chance of being traded.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/27/2013 6:18 PM

    Siccolo, he has repeatedly throughout his career stated he wanted his jersey retired next to John Lucas jersey with multiple championships as well. Portland can offer him a longer deal than any team in the league when he's ready to negotiate and beyond all this trade fantasy, did you ever think he might actually like this team, this coach, this fanbase? Like I said, it baffles me. Not lobbying for him to stay here is something I just don't get. This is a young team with a core of mid twenty year olds. Give this team some love brother. I want LA here myself.
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 07/27/2013 9:36 PM

    I want LA to stay as well. Isn't his contract HUGE though? We don't have much cap space in 2014 unless we part ways with some of our bench guys or Nico.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/27/2013 10:37 PM

    Lamarcus is actually on a good contract, we got him less than the max. 


    Riverman, I don't remember ever hearing Aldridge say he wants to retire here? Maybe It was when he was first drafted...?  I like LA but I don't see him wanting to stay here UNLESS 


    Cj McCollum, TRobinson, Lopez, Leonard can make a huge impact on us and lead us to a 48-50 win season and to the second round. IF we can accomplish something along those lines then I think Lamarcus will consider staying. I am always an optimst when it comes to how many games we can win. I actually think we can accomplish this.


    I say there is a 35% Chance Lamarcus Aldridge will be a Blazer past his current contract 

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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 07/28/2013 12:54 AM

    meyers still miles away but lopez i feel will be big   CJ well see i think he can score  but man he got owned when he was on D T-rob is gunna be big i think

  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 07/29/2013 9:24 AM

     

     

    How did we get away from trading Batum over LA?

    Use Batum's god awful contract and free up some cap space and trade him.

    There are teams out there dumb enough to do that.

     

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/29/2013 3:01 PM

    It's probably the god awful contract that changed the conversation, BlazerManiac. Nobody wants to take it on.


    Riverman has kind of been touching on the point that I was unable to make. It's not so much whether I care if the rumors are true. Chris Haynes reported for certain that talks happened, but the assumption is that it went something like this: "If offers come in for LA, which ones will we entertain?" That's not shopping a player or putting him on the block. But the point is that, if everyone including the media and the fan base keeps saying LaMarcus will leave after this contract, that's exactly what will happen. Like riverman has been saying, has it occurred to anyone that LaMarcus might feel unwanted if nobody talks positively about his staying?

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  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 07/29/2013 5:09 PM

    I think it got away from the Batum talk because he isn't capable of walking away from the team any time soon and wouldn't bring in a player that will make much of a difference. I love LA but I think that at the end of the day, we have to also realize that by the time everyone reaches their abilities, LA will be quite a bit older then the rest of the players.

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/29/2013 5:16 PM

    I think we make a little noise in the west this year.
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 07/29/2013 8:48 PM

    I hope we make a lot of noise.  Also to make all trips to Portland by other teams be feared. 
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/29/2013 9:57 PM

    I tend to take the team a season at a time or even a game at a time. LaMarcus is not old guys...he's primetime and we've got young guys ahead of the curve..why wait? It's time for the Blazers to make some noise!!!
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  1. Blazer247
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    Posted 07/30/2013 11:23 AM

    I'm with you 100% River; as fans, the cynicism and instant jump to trade talks doesn't do anything to help our team.

    If any part of LaMarcus still wants to be a Blazer, the 2 things that will help keep him in Portland (past this season) are:

    -An improved roster, showing him that the Front Office supports his talent, that the team will be getting stronger, and making a push soon

    -Fan SUPPORT. Because nothing is going to drain a player's spirit faster than a fanbase who gives up on him (especially giving up on him when he hasn't done anything to deserve it yet)!

    Some can say he's "guaranteed" to be gone, but any smart NBA fan (who's not bogged down in negativity) knows that nothing in this league is set in stone until Stern announces it... to be clear, just because journalists spread rumors like they were facts, does NOT mean the same as "guaranteed". It just means the journalists rushed their articles to be the first reporting it, instead of doing more research and laying out clear details (You know, "good" journalism).

     

    It's highly likely that the Blazers will finish much, much stronger than they did last year. If any of our projects/gambles (Leonard, Barton, 3J, TRob, Crabbe) can turn it up and exceed this season's expectations, we'll be even better than just the basic improvements. And if that all pans out, there is absolutely no reason we can't expect Aldridge to sign a new contract with Portland. He wants a better team around him, and he can have it HERE, where he already has familiarity and can earn more contract money than on any other team.

    Obviously other teams will still put out trade offers, and lazy journalists will jump at the chance to stir the pot (by writing articles with zero substance or context, but big claims). As fans, we can react two ways:

    -Throw our hands up, say "woe is Portland, we can't keep/attract stars" and give up, bidding goodbye to our allstar before he's even decided, OR...

    -We can do as someone said Spurs fans would do for Duncan; Rally behind LaMarcus as a pillar of our franchise, drown his twitter (and these forums) in his praises and the hopes that he stays here, give him the support that he's given our team for years, and let him make up his own mind instead of trying to push him towards the easy exit.

     

    I get that trade talks are part of the fun for some people, but this assumption that Aldridge MUST be traded is both premature and destructive to the flexibility and direction of our team. If you continually show him the door, it's only natural that his mind will lean that way. If you act like it would be unthinkable for him to leave, well, it will probably be something he ends up thinking less about! 

    Whether you believe in the influence of fans or not, what good does it even do to talk about Aldridge like he's already leaving, and what we can get for him? Do you really think someone is going to come up with a trade idea on these boards (or on PWE or BE), and someone from the Office is going to come on the forums and see it and think "oh, we didn't look at that one! NOW we can get proper value"? Of course not.

    Or, at least, if that were possible, than in theory wouldn't it be just as likely that LaMarcus himself might see/hear about some of the forums, and be discouraged by the lack of faith? I'm not saying that it's any more likely, I'm just pointing out the lack of reasoning for flooding fansites with trade talks when the trade won't happen for months and months at the earliest, or not at all if those months are filled with solid team play. If these discussions have any real effect, it'd be much more likely to be a negative influence than a positive one, and I feel like fans are supposed to be a positive bonus to a team, not another side to fight against.

    Seriously Blazer Fans, our job is to support our team and our players to their last second in a Blazer jersey, and often times beyond that. Our job is NOT to undermine the team and players by helping to stoke the fires of trade rumors.

     

    If you want to undermine the team and jump to early conclusions from incomplete assumptions, I'd say you sound less like a "Fan" and more like a "journalist" :P

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  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 07/30/2013 5:06 PM

    It's a part of our roles as fans to discuss the team's past, present and future. Whether it's pleasant or not, trades are a part of the game and are unavoidable. If you look around the league right now, a lot of teams big name stars have swapped places or simply moved somewhere else with a few exceptions like Dirk, Kobe, etc. So yes it is fun to talk about the possibility of a blockbuster trade but it's also a very real reality. In my eyes, the purpose of this discussion board is to talk about all things basketball with a greater emphasis on the Blazers. 


    In regards to being fans and not journalist's, we Blazer fans are often times thought of as some of the most intelligent fans around. So I'm sorry if we don't just talk about how beautiful Batum's dunk was the night before when the real story is that we lost by 33 points. That's what makes the board great, real and intelligent discussions. Im not interested in just the positives, that's much too one sided. The game is a beautiful thing because there is lots to evaluate and also lots to learn as a fan. I want to know why we lost and how we can get better. Also, I just kind of want to point out to Blazer247 that the last sentence in the second to last paragraph is a bit contradictory to what was written in the bulk of your message before that. Like you said, do you really believe that the GM's and big wigs of the company really read the forum and are effected by it? Don't get me wrong, I don't mean it in a rude tone. I just feel like the chance of such trade talk on these boards don't stoke much of a fire when it comes to trade rumors.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/30/2013 6:08 PM

    I think great things happen when most importantly, the team is a fan of the team. Then the team is a fan of the coach and the coach is a fan of the team. It's great that we fans support the ups and downs and yeah, it's been a long two seasons but intelligent comments on the boards are a breath of fresh air. The balance of powers are shifting in the league. I like our chances. When it comes to the Blazers ability to attract talent, LaMarcus is a guy that brings that to the team. Bottom line, win and they'll sing your praises. I like the work ethic of this group.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/30/2013 6:33 PM

    I agree a 100% with Shwabii last post.

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  1. fredisdead
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    Posted 07/30/2013 7:53 PM

    still would try to make a package deal to get anthony davis i think his cieling is higher the LMA's and i think he can get there quicker

  1. D_pickett
    D_pickett
    Posts: 726

    Posted 07/30/2013 8:45 PM

    2 things in response to schwabbii:


    1. Of course, the future of the Blazers is pertinent to the conversation, and trades are obviously a normal part of the NBA. I just don't see any situation arising where trading LaMarcus is actually a good idea, and until it is the rumors are a drain on everyone's morale. LA is just one tier down from the huge names like KD, LeBron, D-Wade, Melo, or anyone else with that level of stardom, so nobody like that will be coming back from a deal. It doesn't make sense to bring in a 2 because of the depth at that position unless you package CJ or Wes in the deal. It doesn't make sense to bring in a 3 with Nic's contract. There are really no centers on the market that are worth giving up LA for. We already have a PG that's close to All-Star level. The only thing that we could get back for LaMarcus that makes any sense is an All-Star PF. Well, he already is one of those and knows the city, coach, and team. Why not keep him?


    2. These boards, twitter, and other media can't really stoke the kinds of fires that make deals happen or get the attention of the front office. GMs would get fired for using forums as their inspiration. However, when twitter and especially the Blazer media continuously grinds on the topic of trading a player, it certainly can affect that player's loyalty and desire to stay with a franchise. We hear the tagline repeatedly that this is a business. Guess what: human beings work for businesses. Players are still human, and when you have a job with one company and everyone talks about how you'll probably leave that company, you just might leave. Like 247 said, until he's not a Blazer anymore, let's treat him like a Blazer.

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