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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/21/2012 8:03 PM

    If both are available at No. 6, who do you got?
    Damian Lillard (48)
     81%
    Andre Drummond (11)
     19%
    With the draft just a week away, the dust is beginning to settle, slowly. It seems like the great debate around Rip City is who to take at No. 6, UConn center Andre Drummond or Weber State point guard Damian Lillard? Both would fill a need and both would be good value at that selection. So, let's assume that the Trail Blazers would not be able to acquire both (take on at 6, the other at 11 or take one at 6 and trade up for the other), and you could only pick one, who would it be? 


    Damian Lillard | 6-3 | 195lbs | PG | Weber State | Junior
    2011-12 Stats: 24.5 Points | 5.0 Rebounds | 4.0 Assists | 1.5 Steals | 0.2 Blocks | .467 FG | .409 3PT FG | .887 FT | 34.5 Minutes

    Pros:
    • Ready to play right away
    • Ability to score in a plethora of ways
    • Unlimited shooting range
    • Desire to win
    • Superb work ehtic
    Cons:
    • 22 years old in July
    • Not a "pure" point guard
    • Played against sub-par competition in the Big Sky
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    Andre Drummond | 6-10 | 270lbs | C | Connecticut | Freshman
    2011-12 Stats: 10.0 Points | 7.6 Rebounds | 0.4 Assists | 0.8 Steals | 2.7 Blocks | .538 FG | .000 3PT FG | .295 FT | 28.4 Minutes

    Pros:
    • Size
    • Potential to be the best player out of this draft class
    • Outstanding athleticism 
    • Shot-blocking ability
    Cons:
    • 3-4 years away from contributing
    • No offensive game outside of alley-oops or putbacks
    • Does he want to be great?
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 06/21/2012 10:06 PM

    Starting to think Lillard may be drafted way to high, but would rather take Lillard over Drummond. Drummond will be a mistake.
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 06/21/2012 10:49 PM

    why is it portland fans do not look at austin rivers? think he is an interesting prospect, and can trad up/ trade for another pick and not waste such a high pick on a player with some risks still? pick 6 and matthews for beal, trad up to an austin rivers and dragic? gives us lots of flexability
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/21/2012 11:17 PM

    Lillard
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  1. Blazersfan1234
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    Posted 06/22/2012 4:33 AM

    I would go with Drummond at 6th and hope Lillard is still there at 11th. If Lillard is gone the go with some else at 11th possibly Rivers. One problem is that we don't know if Portland promised Dion Waiters that he was their pick.
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/22/2012 8:44 AM

    because he has no true position. he's an all me player. he does not play defense. we already had crawford and it wasn't that great.  rivers would be a wasted pick and there's a handful of better 2 guards. 
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:21 AM

    Lillard no doubt
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:36 AM

    Draft Drummond at 11... might not be as funny as it sounds
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  1. Blazersfan1234
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:46 AM

    I doubt that Drummond will still be on the board at that point
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:52 AM

    Lillard...no doubt. He may not even be there @ 6. Don't be surprised if Portland goes after the #4. Outside of the consensus #1, Lillard is argueably the next safeast pick, largely because of the man he's becoming and the intangibles inherent, all very rare and coveted.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:55 AM

    Àdditionally, I would argue Drummond having #6 value
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/22/2012 10:01 AM

    Kyle Lowry will definitely be available. Draft Lillard with our 6th pick. Pick the best center available with the 11th. Make something happen with Jamal via trade. We'll still have a few chips left to sign Batum, not to mention two second rounders. Its good to have options.
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  1. Geobronc
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    Posted 06/22/2012 10:11 AM

    Lillard all the way!  Then get Meyers Leonard at #11. No more Greg Odens, or Thabeets! 
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/22/2012 10:22 AM

    i think thabeet still has a future in the NBA. we should draft waiters at 11 instead of a center. thabeet just needs to learn how to keep the ball up high and get a mean streak in him and he should flourish.  he is very gifted, physically, for a guy his size.
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  1. Geobronc
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    Posted 06/22/2012 10:50 AM

    Thabeet is a bust...not a chance. Leonard is best C option in draft now. 
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/22/2012 1:12 PM

    I would just feel a lot more confident taking Drummond at No. 11. I don't have a problem waiting around for him. I don't have a problem with his limited offensive game. But what does worry me is if he will ever develop the killer instinct of a Dwight Howard? That is the hardest thing not only to predict but to change. To me, either the fire's inside of you or it's not. And I see that desire to win when Lillard speaks and I think that's contagious. We need more of those guys in Portland. And, not to mention, the kid can flat out play.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/22/2012 1:32 PM

    Could Portland end up with BOTH? Via Sam Amick-
    While Drummond remains the most mysterious talent in this crop and his upside is -- like him -- huge, the Blazers may not be convinced that he's the guy there. If they passed on him, Weber State point guard Damian Lillard could be the chosen one for new general manager Neil Olshey. Lillard got rave reviews in his workout there June 15 and reportedly attended dinner with owner Paul Allen and the team's front office members after.

    Lillard is known to like the fit in Portland and wants to be there, but it would be risky to wait until their second pick (No. 11) to get him. The risk could pay off, though, as sources from rival teams say the top candidates to take him (Toronto at No. 8 and New Orleans at No. 10) appear to be fixated more on different prospects than they are on Lillard (specifically, I'm told the Raptors are contemplating between Syracuse guard Dion Waiters, Connecticut guard Jeremy Lamb and Duke guard Austin Rivers, while the Hornets could be locking in on Rivers and Waiters if either of them are still there).

    Lillard was expected to work out for the Hornets this week, but his camp continues to resist New Orleans' request that he take part in a group workout. That could play a part as well, as Hornets general manager Dell Demps has plenty of options there who have agreed to a workout. North Carolina center Tyler Zeller is being considered at No. 11 as well.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/22/2012 1:34 PM

    MKG first pick and then Lillard
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 06/22/2012 3:16 PM

    Drummond no question.
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  1. jonthorpe
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    Posted 06/22/2012 3:21 PM

    MKG wont be at #6
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 06/22/2012 4:04 PM

    tere's better free agent point guards put there, then there are Centers. But from what we hear, Lillard is just crushing it. So is Drummond during workouts. We'll be lucky to get either guy, but I guess I'd choose Drummond. We could use the blocks. And we still got Raymond Felton. He's due, he's due for a breakout season.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/22/2012 4:12 PM

    lillard and drummond are polar opposites. am i the only one that sees this? look at the interviews, i believe lillard genuinely wants to be here while i think drummond is just repeating lines from his agent. drummond is said to be lazy and have a poor work ethic while lillard is a beast in the gym. drummond is a project with "potential" and lillard is ready to play now.
    i mean i get the whole potential thing but at the 6th pick its really high risk, especially when you have somebody as nba ready as lillard who you need just as bad. its not like you cant get a decent center at 11. there's zeller or leonard, one of them is bound to be there.
    in a situation like this you have to go with lillard
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/22/2012 5:31 PM

    Yay for Lillard winning the vote
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:32 PM

    Posted By Tobyus Sanchezo on 06/22/2012 4:04 PM
    tere's better free agent point guards put there, then there are Centers. But from what we hear, Lillard is just crushing it. So is Drummond during workouts. We'll be lucky to get either guy, but I guess I'd choose Drummond. We could use the blocks. And we still got Raymond Felton. He's due, he's due for a breakout season.

    Felton hasn't shot better than 40 or so percent his whole nba career... even when he had career highs the year before he came to portland, his percentages still weren't great.  Felton's going to have moments, but we endured a full season of one of his worst seasons of his career.  Yes, he's certainly due, but he'll get his day with someone else, not portland.  

    We won't be "lucky" to get Drummond or Lillard.  We would be lucky to get anthony davis, thomas robinson, or michael kidd-gilchrist.  We'll be fortunate if Barnes slides (if portland has no intention of paying Batum big bucks), and many people want Beal, so if he slides, people would feel fortunate to see him at 6.

    That all but leaves a choice between Drummond or Lillard... one of them will be there at 6, it's an almost certainty and if not, I think fans are going to feel a bit fortunate that someone more highly touted slid onto our lap.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/22/2012 10:00 PM

    Posted By The Unholy on 06/22/2012 4:12 PM
    lillard and drummond are polar opposites. am i the only one that sees this? look at the interviews, i believe lillard genuinely wants to be here while i think drummond is just repeating lines from his agent. drummond is said to be lazy and have a poor work ethic while lillard is a beast in the gym. drummond is a project with "potential" and lillard is ready to play now.
    i mean i get the whole potential thing but at the 6th pick its really high risk, especially when you have somebody as nba ready as lillard who you need just as bad. its not like you cant get a decent center at 11. there's zeller or leonard, one of them is bound to be there.
    in a situation like this you have to go with lillard

    Sorry man, but this is not a good post and I would not influence people with this stuff.  

    Polar opposites - yes.  Lillard is a point guard, Drummond is a center.  Interviews?  Look, if I'm in front of 10 cameras when those lights turn red, I get nervous.  Drummond is an 18 year old kid who wasn't in front of the cameras in college like he's experienced so far in these workouts.  Most college players are kept away from the cameras by their coaches on purpose.  So if you hear a guy saying stuff that sounds scripted, well, it might be, but are you really going to judge a guy for that reason?  Hell, Drummond might be nervous as hell and sometimes the brain is flustered.  Not every kid says the right thing.  

    Lazy - He's "said" to be lazy, by whom?  Have you seen him play yourself? 

    Poor work ethic?  - Did you see him play last year and have you seen how far he's come this year?

    Beast in the gym? - come on man, Drummond is an 18 year old kid who is 6-11, 270 pounds.  How do you know he isn't hitting the gym?  And if he is, well, being that big as a teenager, wouldn't you tell him to not go to the gym for fear that he might balloon up to 300 pounds?   I mean really, what do you want?

    Lillard is a toothpick who needs to be hitting the gym so he can handle the physicality of the NBA... and he has more to prove.

    Finally, I'm really sick of people talking about this "risk" at 6.  Honestly, if Drummond is that at 11, does that make him any less risky of a pick?  I mean, come on, what the hell are you talking about.  Either you want him on the team or you don't.  Either you think he's NBA ready, or you don't.  And whether he's taken 6th, 11th, or 40th shouldn't make one damned bit of difference.  

    Finally, what about Lillard makes him so NBA ready?  I mean, I like the kid because he is real nifty with the basketball, good slasher, finisher, FT shooter, yes.  Offensively he's much more polished that Drummond, but he's not 6-11 270 and he's not a premiere shot blocker or an offensive rebounder and Lillard doesn't complement Aldridge, so if there's one thing you and I agree on is that Lillard and Drummond are polar opposites... but they're opposites for their size and what they bring to the game.  I don't give a crap about some preconceived notions about their attitude and who's saying the right or wrong things... that's just camera shy or confidence; it has nothing to do with what they bring to the table.

    Zeller is ready to go, he'll produce numbers, he may be one of the more nba ready guys in the league, but why draft him when we got Aldridge?  Zeller doesn't bring anything more to the table than L.A.   

    I do like Henson or Meyers at 11 if we draft Lillard.  

    And I'm not opposed to that combo, but I guess your rationale to get to the punchline I really disagree with.  
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  1. wayne.lamb
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    Posted 06/23/2012 12:06 PM

    Why not both? We can use crawford in a sign and trade for the 7th or 8th pick. Drummond 6th, Lillard 7th. I think we'll end up with both. If not, I think we'll take Drummond at 6, Rivers, Ross, or Marshall at 11. Not a fan of Marshall but I can see us taking him.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/23/2012 4:12 PM

    Llillard then Leonard at 11. Then Trade Crawford for the 18th pick and get Fab melo or maybe marshall or moultrice. Sign Batum and Brooks/Dragic.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/23/2012 4:42 PM

    Lillard defiantly has potential to be next Drose or Westbrook.
    Leonard would be a much safer answer to our Center problem than Drummond.

    Jammal Crawford hopefully turns into a good pick and decent asset like Derrick Williams and the 18th or
    Dorel Wright and the 7th.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/23/2012 4:42 PM

    Lillard defiantly has potential to be next Drose or Westbrook.
    Leonard would be a much safer answer to our Center problem than Drummond.

    Jammal Crawford hopefully turns into a good pick and decent asset like Derrick Williams and the 18th or
    Dorel Wright and the 7th.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/23/2012 8:13 PM

    I like Lillard more that is all I need
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/24/2012 7:24 PM

    Posted By boomtown on 06/22/2012 10:00 PM
    Posted By The Unholy on 06/22/2012 4:12 PM
    lillard and drummond are polar opposites. am i the only one that sees this? look at the interviews, i believe lillard genuinely wants to be here while i think drummond is just repeating lines from his agent. drummond is said to be lazy and have a poor work ethic while lillard is a beast in the gym. drummond is a project with "potential" and lillard is ready to play now.
    i mean i get the whole potential thing but at the 6th pick its really high risk, especially when you have somebody as nba ready as lillard who you need just as bad. its not like you cant get a decent center at 11. there's zeller or leonard, one of them is bound to be there.
    in a situation like this you have to go with lillard

    Sorry man, but this is not a good post and I would not influence people with this stuff.  

    Polar opposites - yes.  Lillard is a point guard, Drummond is a center.  Interviews?  Look, if I'm in front of 10 cameras when those lights turn red, I get nervous.  Drummond is an 18 year old kid who wasn't in front of the cameras in college like he's experienced so far in these workouts.  Most college players are kept away from the cameras by their coaches on purpose.  So if you hear a guy saying stuff that sounds scripted, well, it might be, but are you really going to judge a guy for that reason?  Hell, Drummond might be nervous as hell and sometimes the brain is flustered.  Not every kid says the right thing.  

    Lazy - He's "said" to be lazy, by whom?  Have you seen him play yourself? 

    Poor work ethic?  - Did you see him play last year and have you seen how far he's come this year?

    Beast in the gym? - come on man, Drummond is an 18 year old kid who is 6-11, 270 pounds.  How do you know he isn't hitting the gym?  And if he is, well, being that big as a teenager, wouldn't you tell him to not go to the gym for fear that he might balloon up to 300 pounds?   I mean really, what do you want?

    Lillard is a toothpick who needs to be hitting the gym so he can handle the physicality of the NBA... and he has more to prove.

    Finally, I'm really sick of people talking about this "risk" at 6.  Honestly, if Drummond is that at 11, does that make him any less risky of a pick?  I mean, come on, what the hell are you talking about.  Either you want him on the team or you don't.  Either you think he's NBA ready, or you don't.  And whether he's taken 6th, 11th, or 40th shouldn't make one damned bit of difference.  

    Finally, what about Lillard makes him so NBA ready?  I mean, I like the kid because he is real nifty with the basketball, good slasher, finisher, FT shooter, yes.  Offensively he's much more polished that Drummond, but he's not 6-11 270 and he's not a premiere shot blocker or an offensive rebounder and Lillard doesn't complement Aldridge, so if there's one thing you and I agree on is that Lillard and Drummond are polar opposites... but they're opposites for their size and what they bring to the game.  I don't give a crap about some preconceived notions about their attitude and who's saying the right or wrong things... that's just camera shy or confidence; it has nothing to do with what they bring to the table.

    Zeller is ready to go, he'll produce numbers, he may be one of the more nba ready guys in the league, but why draft him when we got Aldridge?  Zeller doesn't bring anything more to the table than L.A.   

    I do like Henson or Meyers at 11 if we draft Lillard.  

    And I'm not opposed to that combo, but I guess your rationale to get to the punchline I really disagree with.  

    the interview thing was a contrast comparison from what i liked hearing from lillard rather than a knock on drummond.
    the fact that i've read that he is lazy isnt based on what i've seen but what i've heard. praising drummond for his potential and athleticism while at the same time calling him somewhat lazy and saying he has a poor work ethic just doesnt make sense to me. the scouting report seems to contradict itself. so i really dont even know how to defend that.
    as far as the risk you are taking when you draft based on potential, you are likely passing other prospects who actually have better numbers and are more complete players than what you think you are getting with drummond. i think the expectations from this guy will be so high that if he doesnt turn into dwight howard people will call him a bust. all im saying is that we should grab a more established player before drafting on what they think he could be. i just happen to like lillard. and since the blazers are minus a starting point guard and have gone on several minute long scoring droughts throughout the season i think it makes sense to go for somebody who can both score and create for others.
    and drafting zeller wasn't a suggestion to replace aldridge but to add depth to the center position.
    so this whole thing isnt a knock on drummond its just me stating my opinion that i'd rather take lillard than drummond. but you can turn it into a vendetta against some dude i've never met but whatever i think i've made my point
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/25/2012 1:01 PM

    well, if you want guys who are pretty polished and don't have a high ceiling, then I think you're on the right track with Zeller, he'll produce numbers, but I guess I have a different vision for a center to complement Aldridge.  I want a shot blocker.  Zeller's got game, but his teammate Henson is a much better complement to Aldridge... Henson is Mr. Defense... 2 years running... and he's a hell of a shot blocker.  And I know he's a bit thin, but guys always get bigger.  Again, Henson is not as polished or NBA ready as Zeller, but you honestly would prefer someone more static as opposed to someone who could be an absolute star?  

    I mean, that's what we're talking about.  Zeller is what he is and he's not going to change.  He'll never be a premiere shot blocker, and you're not going to get much more out of him than you saw in college, which is good, but here's the thing.

    You want Lillard.  He's an offensive machine and a so so point guard. If he develops his court awareness, becomes a better, stronger defender, and emerges as a better playmaker, then he could be the all-around talent Portland wants... he could be a superstar.  I understand you want him for what he brings to the table now, and I like him too b/c he has the potential to be so much better.  But you have to look at the negatives with him.  He's ballhoggish, he's going to leave teammates out in the cold, at times he'll miss wide open guys, cuz that's what he does.  He's not inclined to pass like Marshall is... he passed far less than Marshall, and he's more adept at creating for himself than setting up teammates... that's what he did.  He's going to have to drastically change his game if he wants to be a POINT guard that complements his teammates and keeps guys like Matthews happy.  

    With Drummond you get a guy not as polished as Zeller, but he possesses the size, shotblocking ability, speed and other things that CANNOT be taught... things that Zeller will NEVER learn or be good at.   However, If Drummond is taught how to box out, he can be every bit as good as Zeller and at 18, you don't think Drummond can be taught to box out better?  That is why the ceiling is high for drummond.  He's already got a softer touch.  Now he may never shoot as good as Zeller, but if Drummond continues to do what he does now, and improves on other attributes, well, he's easily going to surpass what Zeller brings to the table.

    Bottom line is, you want superstars on your team.  Zeller is probably a bit more than a role player, but to me he's not a superstar.  Anthony Davis is a superstar.  Meyers and Zeller might be all-stars, but superstars, naw, I"m not seeing it.  Drummond has work to do, but him, lillard, anthony davis, and others have it in them to be superstars, but some of them need work.

    So I guess I'm a bit confused.  You want Lillard cuz he can score and Drummond can't?  Lillard's going to be fun to watch, but i really don't think he's going to help the team the way Drummond can help the team.

    In fact, I think a combination of Drummond and Marshall is as good as it gets from a chemistry standpoint, but if Portland gets Lillard, then I'm most excited about Henson at 11.... I just have a feeling Portland's going to take Zeller or Meyers over Henson and, well, that's disappointing to me.  I want a solid shot blocker.

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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/25/2012 1:19 PM

    i don't think henson is a 5 in the NBA. can you imagine him dealing with nene and guys like that? he's on my list of likely busts.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/25/2012 6:57 PM

    well, he's got a big ass wingspan and he swats 3 shots per game.  I don't care if you put a C or PF next to his name, he's a guy who complements L.A. because he brings something to the table that L.A. doesn't.  

    Draft Express has had Drummond penciled in for Portland at 6 for a long time, but they changed recently and now have Lillard 6, Drummond going to Pistons at 9 and Portland taking Henson at 11... I didn't even see that till now.  

    I wonder if the red flag has impacted his draft position.  Thing is, I'd heard Drummond only worked out with the Kings and Blazers ... he was expected to be top 6.  
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/25/2012 6:58 PM

    i was never arguing zeller over drummond. i would take drummond at 11 just not at 6 and not over lillard, but it could still work since there are more point guards in free agency than bigs. 
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/25/2012 7:04 PM

    oh wait the red flag was jared, i'm mixing 'em up.  

    if lillard and drummond can be had at 6 and 11, that would be pretty cool, but I still think henson is an exciting player.  
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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/26/2012 1:54 AM

    Im biased cause i think Lillards the man and no one will steer me away from that but i think Lillard at 6 a wing at 11 and big men through free agency i would not want to risk drafting a big man unless he is polished and ready to play and succeed at the next level and i do not think drummonds there YET, but in the second round getting some big bodies just to have would not be a bad idea.
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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/26/2012 1:56 AM

    but if drummond were to slip to 11 for some crazy miracle that would be the best case scenario.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/26/2012 10:41 AM

    It's funny cuz when Oden was taken in the draft, it was Oden-Euphoria in Portland.  I think I might have been the only one screaming Durant's name, but nobody was listening to me.  Well, I did see a poll one day and I think 13% of responders wanted Durant.

    This year it's a bit different because it's not the #1 and it's not between 2 guys specifically, but it does appear fans believe it's either Drummond or Lillard.  

    I guess we'll all have to look back at Lillard in 3 years time and see where he's at.  I'm a bit torn on the guy.  I want him just in case he turns into that superstar, but I do think he's overhyped.  People say if he came from Kentucky he might be the top pick in the draft?  I doubt it, I'm sure MKG and Davis and Robinson would still be ahead of him, but he could have used a better coach than what he had in college.  Still, this guy isn't Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, or even Chris Paul.... not even close.  The way some of you are so hung up on Lillard, I have to believe you all believe Lillard is going to be a similar star, yet those guys bring (brought ) so much more to the table than Lillard.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/26/2012 10:50 AM

    so you MUST be right this time
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/26/2012 11:15 AM

    With the potential of MKG, Barnes or Beal to slip to #6 now with all the Houston rumors those are people we need to consider first.
    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 06/26/2012 11:48 AM

    i can garentee beel will be gone, wiz and clv both will battle for him
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/26/2012 1:46 PM

    More than likely but the point remains the same
    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. abarrer3
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    Posts: 271

    Posted 06/26/2012 3:13 PM

    Lillard completely... You don't get a guy this high to wait 3 years for him to blossom... Get the guy who impressed in the workout and move on to thinking about 11. It's a no brainer for me
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  1. commontongue
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    Posts: 1864

    Posted 06/26/2012 3:17 PM

    I agree abarrer.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. azblazer
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    Posted 06/26/2012 6:54 PM

    Excellent post, Dustin.
  1. blazercowboy
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    Posted 06/26/2012 7:40 PM

    I agree totally Lillard@6---- then see who is still on the board we have bad luck drafting centers that high !!!!
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  1. FT
    FT
    Posts: 3

    Posted 06/26/2012 8:01 PM

    Lillard at 6
    I am a fan of Trail Blazers -- Damian Lillard
  1. cmeese47
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    Posts: 2735

    Posted 06/26/2012 8:02 PM

    Neither at 6 right now if someone like MKG can fall
    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. schwabbii
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    Posts: 205

    Posted 06/27/2012 12:23 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVgz-L0UhU
    I just saw this video...dang the kid can shoot!
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