Who should the Trail Blazers pick at #6?
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/15/2012 9:43 PM

    Matthews will make around 6.5 million next season while Maggette will make 10.9 million. 
    Maggette shot a terrible 37% from the field last season but was still able to score 15 PPG on 11.7 shots because he attempted 6.5 free throws per game. If Maggette can return to his career shooting percentage of 45% we will have a hell of starting back court. 
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 06/17/2012 9:04 PM

    We don't want to take on another bad contract of someone that is on the down hill side of his career. Maggette is too injury prone, has missed 231 games during his career. Matthews stats are very comparable to Maggette only Matthews hasn't peaked yet.

    I would rather see Portland draft #6 the player that slides, probably Barnes or Beal at this point, then trade up with GS at #7 and take Lillard.

    I see your point with us losing next years pick anyway but MKG is no sure thing, he could just as easily be a bust as anyone else in this draft.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/18/2012 12:38 PM

    Benh Maggette's contract is hardly what I would consider bad. He will make 10.9 million next season whereas Matthews will make 6.5 then 6.75 and then 7.25 that is 20.5 over the next three years. Additionally, if E. Williams develops and we select a young SG then Maggette becomes expendable and his 10.9 million expiring contract could net a nice return at the trade deadline. 

    Plus, I just do not see MKG becoming a bust. 
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/18/2012 1:14 PM

    I'm ok with Maggette's contract and the trade deadline makes sense if we need to unload...  I'm new to this board and I am appreciating the insight from cmeese and a few other level headed fans.  

    If we can land both MKG and Lillard and we still keep Batum and LMA we do it right?
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/18/2012 2:09 PM

    I would hope so. In my opinion the defensive intensity of MKG would be great here in Portland. We also need someone who aggressively attacks the basket, we would get that with MKG and Lillard. By attacking the basket you also have a chance to get the other teams front court in foul trouble and that would only make things easier for LMA.
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/18/2012 2:34 PM

    LIllard and MKG are def attack mode players that would Rock Rip city... MKG motor on d and Lillard's ability to keep double teams off LMA would be sure fire way to get Blazers back in the mix, it would be HUGE

    then sign FA Nash and center (Kaman maybe), and Batum and Hickson and we are back in the fold again :)

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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/18/2012 2:36 PM

    The 7th pick and 2nd pick become targets to make this happen along with Mathews most likely
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/18/2012 2:38 PM

    If Jordan drafts Drummond it would cement him as the all time worst GM Haha
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/18/2012 7:59 PM

    Unless Drummond becomes a perennial all star
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 06/18/2012 8:50 PM

    Drummond will either make it or bust in the NBA. If he makes it he will not be the brunt of jokes, but if he fails the team that takes him will be mocked.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/18/2012 9:15 PM

    Not sure mocked since Thabeet was not mocked just labeled a bust
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  1. wayne.lamb
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    Posted 06/18/2012 11:26 PM

    I keep flip flopping all over the place because I like so many players in this draft. I have liked lillard at six ever since it seemed like he wouldn't be available at 11. For 11, I'm adding Rivers to my batch of players i'd like at that spot. I just watched his performance against NC, where he put up 29 and hit the game winner. That was nice, and it was funny to watch Doc go crazy on the sideline. Anyway, Austin Rivers is stone cold clutch, and really young. Still like PJ3, and Drummond. Highly doubt either will be there though
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/19/2012 6:47 AM

    Drummond would have to DOMINATE on D to be an All Star, cuz his shot really, really, really bad...  so he will have to be Mutumbo like in the middle to even have a chance to sniff an All Star game.

    I just think a big man should have some post game and in the 4th quarter he would kill ya at the line... 29% FT % are you kidding me?  what is all the hype about 6 10 player... I mean its not like he plays like a 7 1

    just a risk top 10 risk but not top 6 imo

    Jordan might get lucky but I think at two you need a lock or trade out
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/19/2012 7:52 AM

    rivers would be a huge mistake at 11.  i'd take waiters any day over rivers. rivers doesn't care about team basketball.  he doesn't care about playing defense.  all he wants to do is score and look good doing it. i guess if you were really in love with crawford's game last season than i would understand wanting rivers. 
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/19/2012 12:20 PM

    Ford has Portland taking Drummond at 6, but says Lillard and Waiters could be in play at #6-


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  1. car889
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    Posted 06/19/2012 12:25 PM

    Why would we take Waiters at 6? And Drummond is just too much of a risk at #6 we have to go with the obvious choice in Lillard unless Harrison Barnes somehow slips to us. 
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/19/2012 1:24 PM

    yeah. i like waiters and i think he would be a great pick up at 11 but not 6. that would be a waste considering he will likely be available at 11.  but i'd much rather have waiters then rivers and lamb combined.  waiters does a lot of different things well (including playing solid D) and plays aggresively. i think his game will transfer over well to the NBA.
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 06/19/2012 2:07 PM

    I like Lilliard at #6 and Meyers or Waiters or Ross at #11.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/19/2012 5:38 PM

    Agreed Waiters should not be an option at 6
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/19/2012 9:21 PM

    Lilliard and Meyers would be a nice take
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/20/2012 7:42 AM

    Meyers worries me he has a high upside like Drummond but high potential for being a bust.
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/20/2012 8:44 AM

    I agree... Meyers has some risk but at 11 I would be willing to roll the dice on a legit 7 footer.

    He reminds me of a younger Priz..  but way more athletic upside and offense.  Midwest guy great attitude and hops, he could help in the middle right away.  

    If we draft Waiters then we will need to spend more in FA (Kaman) and have less chance to land Nash... but getting a center in the draft we will have more flex in FA

    Center get way more money because they are scarce...   Kaman, Garnett, Camby unrestricted options very scarce so getting Meyers, now this could also be said about Drummond in the end... 

    If Drummond slips and I think he will... NO at #10 might pass him out of top 10 and back in our laps at 11 which would be a perfect place to land a high risk big (Drummond or Meyers?)  I think in 3 years we might be all saying Meyers IMO

    I bet Neil will go with safer assets at 6 that can start out of the gate

    With 3 legit centers in this draft we should grab one... just not at 6
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/20/2012 8:53 AM

    If we want a center in the draft we can trade down from #11 and still get one plus some depth.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/20/2012 8:53 AM

    If we want a center in the draft we can trade down from #11 and still get one plus some depth.
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/20/2012 10:15 AM

    my first preference would be to try and turn the 11th pick in to the 5th or 7th pick via trade.

    but if we don't do that i'm thinking draft lillard at 6 and waiters at 11.  what a dynamic backcourt that would be.  with our history drafting centers i am perfectly happy going out and finding a proven center through FA or trade.  i heard noah isn't fitting in great with the bulls. i'd love to have his motor on the team.
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  1. Reggie Lucenara
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    Posted 06/20/2012 1:58 PM

    Austin River!!! these guy reminds me of Tony parker the way he can get to the lane so easily. this guy will be a steal at number 11. I cant believe this guy is not projected before 11. He is a very good ball handler. really really remind me of tony parker moves. this guy can get to the lane anytime he wants which is very hard to find in the NBA. Please draft this guy
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  1. Reggie Lucenara
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    Posted 06/20/2012 1:58 PM

    Austin River!!! these guy reminds me of Tony parker the way he can get to the lane so easily. this guy will be a steal at number 11. I cant believe this guy is not projected before 11. He is a very good ball handler. really really remind me of tony parker moves. this guy can get to the lane anytime he wants which is very hard to find in the NBA. Please draft this guy
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 06/20/2012 2:34 PM

    I like the motor on Noah he would be a great player to have on D but whats chances of Noah in Portland... seems to low to bet on

    Lillard and Waiters look good on paper but both like to dominate the ball... still it could work I think Waiters has more game hiding in him, nice to have choices

    the end game has got to be 
    Beal/MKG
    Lillard
    maybe get SIms in second... or Sullinger haha


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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/20/2012 5:13 PM

    Outside of our picks I do not see a whole lot of trade value. 
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/20/2012 6:54 PM

    I read a lot of posts here but not all  I was the first to post here and then drifted away for a bit.

    Ashine24, I like your points, but not sure about Drummond.
    Hg, you mention BPA.

    Everyone, can I ask exactly, what is your definition of Best Player Available?  Does this basically mean a guy that should have gone higher falls on your lap, so you take him?  If that is the case, then Lillard is not going to be the best available or even Waiters at 6.  It will be Beal, Barnes, or Drummond, because they should all be taken after Davis, TR and MKG.

    Let's say Davis, TR, MKG, Beal, and Barnes are the first 5 and Portland takes Lillard, did Portland then go against the grain and not take the B.P.A?  

    I guess I think BPA is a bunch of hogwash.  Stocks of players are based on mock drafts and supposed expert analysis; they're not based on what the teams are saying in the war room and you may hear a number of players fly up and down the BPA lists just to detract teams from their strategies.

    The NBA draft is a game of chess to owners and GMs... whatever they can do to steer another team in the opposite direction is what they desire.

    As far as who Portland should take at 6?  I personally think Barnes if he slides, mostly because of Batum's uncertainty... but also because he's got a lot of raw skills, and I don't think he needs to improve a lot to do well in the NBA.

    I think if Portland wants to good passing point guard, you don't go with Lillard at 6.

    I think if Portland wants depth at SG, move up a bit for Beal (because I don't think he'll slide), but I really like Waiters.

    Finally, people say a lot about Drummond.  I just want to ask, how many of you have really seen him play?  I heard someone say don't judge him for how he did as a freshman at UConn for various reasons, but look, fans need to know what they're getting in Drummond, if not, they're going to be disappointed and boo him.

    Drummond cannot shoot, you all know that right?  I mean, Hg and so many others are saying he's the Center with the most upside and I agree, and I think he's who portland will take, but he's not who I want.

    We've all talked about his crappy FT percentage, but you know, the great majority of his FG % is dunking the basketball.

    Listen, this is what Drummond can NOT do....

    Shoot ... not even from 5 feet away
    Shoot ... no mid-range jumper
    Shoot free throws 
    He has 0 post moves.  
    He's not good at blocking out (for that reason, not a great defensive rebounder)
    I do not think Drummond has a high basketball IQ, but I could be wrong.  He just looked lost a lot, and was very unassertive.

    Understand, when you're talking about NCAA stars, 6-11 270 pound guys should be averaging much more than 10 points and 7 boards per game.

    What Drummond CAN do...

    Block, grab offensive boards, run fast, very athletic.

    If you want a guy who can catch and dunk and block, drummond's your man. 

    But this guy might be the BIGGEST project of everyone in the draft.


    As far as the rest of the picks go, well, nobody's without their flaws, so it's a matter of preference, need, and maybe minimizing the flaws... take the guys most ready.

    Lillard is most ready to score
    Marshall is most ready to run the point and setup his teammates pretty flawlessly
    Waiters is ready to contribute off the bench and might even have the potential to be 6th man of the year as a rookie

    I saw some people discussing Meyers Leonard here, and I disagree that he's a potential bust.  Meyers has worked so hard on his game.  He has post moves Drummond only dreams about, and Meyers is as athletic as him, and he shoots way better than Drummond probably ever will in his lifetime.

    But that discussion is only for comparison purposes.  Leonard's stock is not higher than maybe 11 or 12 right now, but maybe it'll continue to climb. he is a legit 7 footer and the ceiling is high for him because he is such a student of the game.  He's going to work hard and he has better raw skills than Drummond... specifically shooting ability and post moves... footwork. 

    Meyers should be talked about as a possibility at 11...I'm going to jump over to that thread and catchup
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/20/2012 6:58 PM

    Posted By jwood on 06/20/2012 10:15 AM
    my first preference would be to try and turn the 11th pick in to the 5th or 7th pick via trade.

    but if we don't do that i'm thinking draft lillard at 6 and waiters at 11.  what a dynamic backcourt that would be.  with our history drafting centers i am perfectly happy going out and finding a proven center through FA or trade.  i heard noah isn't fitting in great with the bulls. i'd love to have his motor on the team.

    I'm not opposed to Lillard at 6 and Waiters at 11, but I think Waiters' stock is higher than 11 now.

    And I would not move up with 11, unless we package that with 6 and try to get Anthony Davis or MKG.  I don't want to move up to get Beal b/c I'd be just as happy with Waiters and that's not a pressing need for portland unless people are not sure of Matthews, but we are less sure of Batum's future, so Center, PG, and SF have to be addressed before taking another SG as a backup.

    It just seems wrong to get a shooting guard.

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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/20/2012 7:01 PM

    Posted By Reggie Lucenara on 06/20/2012 1:58 PM
    Austin River!!! these guy reminds me of Tony parker the way he can get to the lane so easily. this guy will be a steal at number 11. I cant believe this guy is not projected before 11. He is a very good ball handler. really really remind me of tony parker moves. this guy can get to the lane anytime he wants which is very hard to find in the NBA. Please draft this guy

    NO.

    1) He's from Duke
    2) He's a Dukie
    3) He's a blue devil
    4) he's from Duke
    5) We already have one dukie and that's far too many for 1 team to have.

    no no no no NO!

    Rivers is a poor man's point guard.  Actually, I don't know what he is.  He was supposedly running the point at Duke, but he didn't run squat.  HE CAN'T PASS.  We don't need a replacement for Matthews and Rivers isn't either ... I mean he isn't a point guard and he isn't a shooting guard, so he's some weird tweener and he's not better than Matthews and he can't run our team.

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO... PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/20/2012 7:06 PM

    before I leave this thread, I just think you all praising Drummond as the guy we need to take at 6 need to reanalyze things.  Or be honest about what Portland needs and what he brings to the table.  

    Drummond is not an offensive guy.  No shot.  Cannot shoot.  His 10 ppg come from 5 dunks per game, all his misses are errant shots that he throws at the rim.  As I said above, this guy has no post moves, no hook shot, no bread and butter shot.  He really is a pour mans shaq because he shoots free throws worse than shaq, he's shorter than shaq, and he scores way less.  Shaq dominated at LSU and showed his potential.  Drummond has only shown his size, athleticism, speed, and shot blocking ability.  

    He needs so much work.   I'm repeating myself, but people should not be talking about getting drummond simply because of team needs.  

    If you want a prop who blocks shots and dunks, then you're happy with drummond.  If you want a guy who can score 20+ ppg in the post, it's not Drummond.  Of course he can learn from Aldridge, but it'll be a full time job teaching him.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/21/2012 10:52 AM

    I think you were being a little harsh on Drummond who does have a little hook shot and decent footwork but for a big man he takes a ton of jump shots and rarely uses his big frame to draw contact. 
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/21/2012 12:06 PM

    he don't want to draw contact because he won't make the free throw.  lol.  yeah, just kidding.

    Um, his "hook" shot is turn under someone's out-stretched arm and throw a line drive at the hoop.  He's not exactly eloquent.  And his footwork is step step jam.  Sorry, i'm not buyin'.  
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/21/2012 1:29 PM

    I am not saying he will be good just saying he wont be the complete travesty on offense you claim. I think 12 points per is likely his range.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/21/2012 2:48 PM

    Lillard's starting to look the the man for Portland at #6? Via Sam Amick-
     Starting to agree RT : NBA GM tells me he thinks Blazers take Lillard at No. 6, & wouldn't chance trying to get him at No. 11
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/21/2012 3:12 PM

    i just wonder who would have to drop to pick somebody other than lillard. if beal drops, do we take him? Barnes? drummond is who i think will drop out of the top tier guys, but it will be interesting if it is one of the other guys.  good problem to have though. i'd be ecstatic to have lillard, barnes or beal.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/21/2012 7:01 PM

    Posted By Ricky on 06/15/2012 8:35 PM
    DHawes22 should we have another list to choose from?  The first one seems to be somewhat outdated.
    I'd love to make another but we've got a great debate going on here already and at least the two main guys are there. I may start just a Lillard/Drummond debate thread.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/21/2012 10:54 PM

    Posted By jwood on 06/21/2012 3:12 PM
    i just wonder who would have to drop to pick somebody other than lillard. if beal drops, do we take him? Barnes? drummond is who i think will drop out of the top tier guys, but it will be interesting if it is one of the other guys.  good problem to have though. i'd be ecstatic to have lillard, barnes or beal.

    i agree drummond will be most likely to drop but if barnes or beal are available you might have to take one of them over lillard. lillard is the most realistic scenario in my opinion, anything can happen come draft day though.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/21/2012 11:16 PM

    Need to go for MKG and Lillard
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 06/22/2012 11:33 AM

    cmeese, I think going for MKG and Lilliard would be a good move.  A trade would probably have to be executed in order to have a chance at both of them.  I do not think either of them will be available at #11.  I am hearing rumors that Waiters is better at distrubuting the ball than Lilliard.  I thought Waiters was a shooting guard only.  Do you think that Portland is raising some fodder that lilliard is their man so they might get Waiters?  Could Portland have given Waiters a guarantee at #6 rather than #11 assuming they are the ones that gave the guarantee?  If this is so and we get Waiters at #6 then we might get T-Ross at #11.  This does not sound all that bad to me.   

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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/22/2012 11:43 AM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 06/21/2012 2:48 PM
    Lillard's starting to look the the man for Portland at #6? Via Sam Amick-
     Starting to agree RT : NBA GM tells me he thinks Blazers take Lillard at No. 6, & wouldn't chance trying to get him at No. 11

    First off, Canzano is the biggest pompous ass in Portland and he'll do and say anything for a headline.  Secondly, there's no GM in the league that's going to leak any such information to such a snake such as him.  Lastly, the operative word here is "he thinks".  How many people are going to talk to the "NBA GM" to be able to confirm or deny this raving lunatic's garbage?  

    wow, I unsubscribed from the Oregonian years ago because Canzano constantly ripped on blazers, he hated Rasheed Wallace, all but forced Damon Stoudamire into a piss test to clear his name, he's constantly harping on Paul Allen like he's some incompetent owner, he dumps on all Oregon teams all the time.  I never understood why a guy who clearly hates sports devotes his life to following and reporting them.  

    He might say he's just reporting the news, but he's trash.  Coming here, I thought I might be safe from a low life loser like him.  Honestly, I think Canzano is the biggest cancer in Portland and I'm surprised fans haven't driven him out of town years ago.

    sorry for the soapbox rant, but I'd hoped I'd never see this losers name again.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/22/2012 12:07 PM

    I'm going to talk a sec about Drummond.  

    Last year many of the errant shots Drummond put up were because he was not a poised player in the paint; he was errant, undisciplined, and many times looked like he really didn't know what team basketball was all about.  He reminded me of a kid who used to showoff at the playground, getting the ball and impressing everyone with his powerful jams.  

    If you ever saw his "post" moves, it was kind of like an ugly shaq move when he'd sorta dip down, curl, then he'd do this shotput looking line drive towards the hoop.  That's probably over-dramatizing things, but point is, he really didn't have a post game.  His footwork is in his speed to get up and down the court; he's very agile for a big man, much more so than Shaq, and he may throw down some of the most monsterous jams, and some of the best alley oops.  He'll dazzle at times.

    Now I felt that he wasn't going to be good for Portland because his shooting percentage is 30, and he really has no shot or post game, but keep this in mind.  Drummond is 18.  He's a 6-11, 270 pound 18 year old KID.  

    My god, when I think about that, it really does get my head turning.  The fact that he could still grow physically, he will grow mentally, and he's working very hard on his game.

    I saw a video I commented on in another thread ... a sacramento king workout.  Drummond has been working hard.  As was commented at the top of that particular site, Drummond's point of release is higher now, he is getting more air under the ball.  I saw him take a series of shots, very few missed, and I was impressed with the transition.. the way the ball rolls off his fingers, well, he didn't have that touch last year.  He's not as eloquent as L.A., and honestly we don't need him to be shooting a lot of jump shots anyway, but even if his efforts don't transcend to the court this year like he showed in the workout, it's clear he's made massive strides forward.

    If the guy continues on this pace, well, think about the future of an 18 year old of his size and stature?  The world is his oyster.  At his size, I wish he were as polished as Anthony Davis b/c he would be the undisputed #1 and people would be comparing him to Wilt Chamberlain, lol, well, maybe.  haha.  

    Look, he has a lot of work, but if his offensive game continues to develop, well, this guy could be a better option than what Oden was going to be.  Drummond's certainly faster and more athletic than Oden ever was, and athleticism is the one thing that cannot be taught.  

    When it comes down to Drummond and Lillard, well, the offensive ability of Lillard makes him a hard one to pass up.  Waiters' future is very bright and he really fills a big void that's going to be left with Crawford's departure, but I think Drummond may be the best option for Portland this year.

    I mean, it's obvious PG and C are our most pressing needs.  It's also clear that Lillard is not a true PG and Marshall lacks certain offensive and even defensive qualities, but when it really comes down to it, what do you all think portland's strategy is if....

    They get Lillard at 6
    who at 11?

    If they get Drummond at 6
    who at 11?


    to me, a combination like Drummond and Marshall is more valuable than Lillard and Meyers or Henson.  I wouldn't say MUCH more valuable cuz here's the thing...

    Meyers is working hard and improving, plus he already has better footwork and a better post game than Drummond ... he's just not as big and strong.  but meyers is a bit taller.

    Henson is thin, but all guys get bigger.  Henson can score better than Drummond and he's got a long wing span, great shot blocker, 2 time ACC defensive player of the year ... you just can't deny that.  Henson would be an awesome addition.

    Marshall lacks Lillard's offensive scoring ability, but Marshall is an incredible playmaker, great at setting up teammates, and he prides himself on getting them easy baskets.  He may never be a prolific scorer, but that's because he has the mind of a true point guard... awesome court vision, awesome awareness... does not make mistakes.  period.  

    So if you want 2 guys who I think provide good chemistry and balance, it's Drummond and Marshall.  I say that because Drummond's skills will complement L.A., and Marshall will make everyone around him better.  You will see happy players in Batum, L.A. and Wesley when the unselfish Marshall delivers.

    On the other hand, I do think Meyers and Henson equally complement L.A., but I do not think Lillard complements Wesley.  their styles clash, Wesley will miss out on all the shots Lillard's taking, and Lillard does not have Marshall's vision or awareness.  Play making ability for Lillard, yes, but it's his own creation, he's a great finish, not a distributor.  


    sorry, i got carried away with another long post, many of you probably won't read it all, but I hope you do.  did.  Cuz I think I'm right.

    Of course, this does not diminish my want for Harrison Barnes, I just don't think he's gonna slip and I truly truly truly hope Batum is retained b/c he already has chemistry with LA and Wes, so it's less of a transition.

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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 06/22/2012 12:38 PM

    pick 6 and pick 11 for pick 4 and 2nd rd pick
    matthews and pick 40 for pick 8

    pick beal at 4, and lillard at 8 ;) good start
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/22/2012 2:00 PM

    We need MKG or Barnes more than we need Beal.
    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/22/2012 2:09 PM

    i'm thinking it's a wash when it comes to beal/waiters so i wouldn't trade up for beal. i'd rather just take waiters w/o having to give anything up.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/22/2012 5:33 PM

    If Beal and Waiters are in the same class then we need to getting someone like MKG or Barnes then.
    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. cedricmasonstone
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    Posted 06/22/2012 6:15 PM

    if harrison barnes is avalible at #6 i would take him. he is a solid rebounder and can score i think he is ready for the nba. from what i see in combines and interviews i would say he is one of the most muture players in this years draft
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/22/2012 9:26 PM

    I think the team takes barnes only if they have no intention on resigning Batum, otherwise I think they go with the pressing need.   People keep talking about best player available, in portland's case, I disagree.  I been hearing a lot of people say drummond or lillard and I really do think they're taking one of them, but if they do, then if we don't hear them trade down for a guy like harkless, ross, or the like (as insurance for Batum), then I think we can safely say Portland's going to match.  

    Part of me thinks our GM does want Beal; I think maybe he see's something in him that he saw in Chris Paul.  I dunno what or why, just a gut instinct.  when it comes down to it, portland can do just about anything in this year's draft, but I do think the lottery picks will address pressing needs at PG and C, which is why I think a combo of Drummond/Marshall or Lillard/Meyers (or Henson or trade down maybe for Melo) is what we'll see.  and if we get depth with O'Quinn, then I think prz, thabeet, or both won't be retained.
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