Who should the Trail Blazers pick at #6?
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/31/2012 3:14 PM

    Who should the Trail Blazers pick at #6?
    Harrison Barnes (34)
     35%
    Andre Drummond (37)
     38%
    Perry Jones III (2)
     2%
    Damian Lillard (19)
     19%
    Jared Sullinger (2)
     2%
    Other (4)
     4%
    The Trail Blazers have the sixth and eleventh picks in the first round of the 2012 NBA Draft. Assuming the Trail Blazers keep the pick and take a player and also assuming that Anthony Davis, Bradley Beal, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, and Thomas Robinson are off the board when Portland goes on the clock to pick at No. 6, it raises the question, "Who should the Trail Blazers take at No. 6?" Here are the options:



    Harrison Barnes | 6-8 | 215lbs | SF | North Carolina | Sophomore
    2011-12 Stats: 17.1 Points | 5.2 Rebounds | 1.1 Assists | 1.1 Steals | 0.3 Blocks | .440 FG | .358 3PT FG | .723 FT | 29.2 Minutes

    Swish Scout Scouting Report-
    Smart player who excels with his efficient style to routinely set himself up for a midrange jumper, drain the deep 3-ball and take over games when he gets hot down the stretch. In addition to having a great build for an NBA swingman at the SG/SF position, Barnes has great upside as a ‘go to’ player in the league and is worthy of high lottery consideration in 2012, but will be a matter of if he can realize it as continues to to refine his ball handling and assertiveness.
    Best Case Scenario-
    Danny Granger

    Worst Case Scenario-
    Travis Outlaw Meets Danny Green





    Andre Drummond | 6-10 | 270lbs | C | Connecticut | Freshman
    2011-12 Stats: 10.0 Points | 7.6 Rebounds | 0.4 Assists | 0.8 Steals | 2.7 Blocks | .538 FG | .000 3PT FG | .295 FT | 28.4 Minutes

    Swish Scout Scouting Report-
    Drummond is a rare breed of big man with impressive natural strength, length, athleticism, instincts, shooting touch and ball skills to be an elite NBA post talent. Needs to be more consistent, mature physically and refine his post play, but its hard to ignore the unique combination of physical gifts and upside for Drummond as the top overall pick in any NBA Draft.
    Best Case Scenario-
    Amare Stoudemire

    Worst Case Scenario-
    Andray Blatche





    Perry Jones III | 6-11 | 235lbs | SF/PF | Baylor | Sophomore
    2011-12 Stats: 13.5 Points | 7.6 Rebounds | 1.3 Assists | 0.8 Steals | 0.6 Blocks | .500 FG | .303 3PT FG | .696 FT | 30.7 Minutes

    Super athletic forward with incredible physical gifts and the ability to bring the ball up, run the floor in transition, face up to knock down the jumper and put the moves on a defender like a guard would. The quintessential ‘potential based prospect’ was uneven and inconsistent his time at Baylor, yet maintains high NBA draft stock based on the unique combination of size, length, athleticism and unlimited upside.
    Best Case Scenario-
    Rashard Lewis

    Worst Case Scenario-
    Tyrus Thomas




    Damian Lillard | 6-3 | 195lbs | PG | Weber State | Junior
    2011-12 Stats: 24.5 Points | 5.0 Rebounds | 4.0 Assists | 1.5 Steals | 0.2 Blocks | .467 FG | .409 3PT FG | .887 FT | 34.5 Minutes

    Lillard’s a quick point guard and gamer who can flat out score by attacking the basket, spotting up or creating his own shot from the perimeter. Although he has upside at the position, Damian’s passing skills are mediocre and his shooting mechanics are suspect, making him a mid-late first rounder at best in 2012.
    Best Case Scenario-
    Ramon Sessions

    Worst Case Scenario-
    Norris Cole





    Jared Sullinger | 6-9 | 265lbs | F/C | Ohio State | Sophomore
    2011-12 Stats: 17.5 Points | 9.2 Rebounds | 1.2 Assists | 1.2 Steals | 1.1 Blocks | .519 FG | .400 3PT FG | .768 FT | 30.4 Minutes

    Physical, big body post ‘banger’ who’s a double-double machine, knows how to take advantage of his size and strength to establish deep position in paint and crash the boards. Not athletically great and a tad under ideal NBA PF size, but has a great budding post game, nice ball skills and that big body to ultimately warrant him as a high lottery pick when he declares for the NBA Draft.
    Best Case Scenario-
    Kevin Love (minus 3-point shooting)

    Worst Case Scenario-
    Marreese Speights Meets DaJuan Blair



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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 05/31/2012 3:58 PM

    Harrison Barnes will never be Michael Jordan, but he's a stronger, more aggressive Batum and Barnes has the ability to be a go-to guy, something I don't think Batum ever will be... maybe it's a confidence thing.  Batum has shown flashes of brilliance, but also great passiveness.  I think if it's a choice between the two, Barnes has more upside... they're both naturally gifted and fluid, but Barnes is a bit more physical and involved in the offense.

    Drummond's ceiling is high.  He only shoots 30% from the charity stripe, and he was only like the 4th best scorer at UConn, averaging 10 pts a game, while grabbing about 7 boards.  This guy needs to be much more assertive.  He has ability in the paint to make the close range shots and at times he'll dunk it down, but what I like most is that he can block nearly 3 shots per game and that would complement L.A.  Drummond is a bit of a project, but he has the frame and foundation to flourish in a couple years.  He just needs to do more.

    Sullinger took a bit of a step back in his Sophomore season.  Not a great blocker or passer, but does shoot better than Drummond.  Sullinger lost weight to get him self in better shape for his Sophomore season, but he seemed to play softer and he needs to be stronger in the paint.  He could complement L.A., but I think his style is too much like his and we don't need him here.  

    If a choice between the two, I'd take Drummond over Sullinger.  Sullinger needs to go to a team that doesn't have an L.A. type of guy... I compare J.S. to Duncan.

    Lillard could be a solid offensive player in the NBA, maybe even has superstar written all over him, but I wouldn't ask him to run the point.  He averaged nearly 25 ppg this past year at Weber St, but at 6-3 a buck-ninety-five, I think he's a bit small for SG.  I think he messes with chemistry in Portland and I don't know how well he'll work with Matthews, in fact that combination worries me.

    I wouldn't even consider Perry Jones III with the 6th pick.  This article mentions his inconsistencies, but not only that, some nights he just didnt' even involve himself.  2 points in 33 minutes vs South Dakota State.  He doesn't shoot from downtown like Dirk Nowitzki, he doesn't play in the paint, won't block shots, and I really question the future this guy has in the NBA.  I think his biggest problem is that he's going to be a disappointment to the fans and if he doesn't over-achieve, I think he's going to get boo'd a lot because expectations are going to be high.  For his sake, I hope he was putting it on cruise-control in college to prevent injury; he's going to have to shift gears and go all out now to prove people like me wrong.

    Portland should get Drummond or Barnes.  If they opt in another direction, I hope it involves selling the farm to move up and get Anthony Davis's 5 blocks per game - I know that won't happen - or trade down to get a guy who can block like Henson or Melo.  This is pending the future of some of Portland's current roster spots as well, such as Hickson and Thabeet... if these guys stay and get minutes, then Portland won't need to target such big bodies as I've suggested.  Maybe a guy like Lillard would be worth a pick, but more so I think get Barnes to rotate with Batum (hopefully he stays), then get a guy like Machado in the 2nd round to dish the rock to Matthews and company... and Portland will be just fine.
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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 05/31/2012 4:16 PM

    I think Drummond is the for sure number one guy. If he goes off the board at #5, I can honestly say I would have no idea. I just hope Drummond is still there because this guy has a ridiculous amount of potential
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 05/31/2012 7:06 PM

    drummond is the guy if portland picks, people think we made a mistake and complain about our drafting skills, barnes will be the next travis outlaw..... will never be as good as batum, people will question our ability to draft.... trade both, be safe, go for the for sure player....
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/31/2012 7:16 PM

    I only counted four players that were gone when we were supposed to pick at #6.  Who else was the fifth player who got chosen.  I like Barnes and only Drummond at #11 if he is still there.  I am not even sure I would select Drummond even at #11 if some other talent was there.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 05/31/2012 7:52 PM

    I want us to take Beal or Barnes but I would prefer us to package #6 and someone like Nolan Smith or Luke Babbitt and move up to get MKG or Thomas Robinson. 
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 05/31/2012 7:56 PM

    I voted for Drummond, he has the great physical presence Portland is lacking, he's a terrible FT shooter though. I also like Perry Jones, he shows he may have the ability to create his own shot, another thing Portland is lacking.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 05/31/2012 8:56 PM

    with that 6 pick, you grab whomever you think can get you double digit scoring next season.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/31/2012 9:00 PM

    Posted By Ricky on 05/31/2012 7:16 PM
    I only counted four players that were gone when we were supposed to pick at #6.  Who else was the fifth player who got chosen.  I like Barnes and only Drummond at #11 if he is still there.  I am not even sure I would select Drummond even at #11 if some other talent was there.
    The top 4 prospects that I've seen on most mock drafts are Davis, Beal, Robinson and Kidd-Gilchrist. I know we pick six, but I couldn't leave off Barnes or Drummond as I think one of those two will be available when our name is on the clock. To me, Drummond at 6 is a steal. He could be the game-changer we need.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/31/2012 9:04 PM

    I'm torn between Drummond, Jones and Lillard..leaning towards Drummond as his potential may just be too much to pass on and he'd look great starting next to LaMarcus Aldridge.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 05/31/2012 10:57 PM

    Drummond is also the mostly likely player in the draft to flop as well. He is high risk and I am not sure this city could handle another failed Center. 

    Drummond is one of those players who could really elevate a team or set a team back a few seasons. 
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/01/2012 12:27 AM

    Drummond could b Eric Dampieresque :( = Booooooooooo!
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  1. DoubleDz
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    Posted 06/01/2012 3:50 AM

    Harrison Barnes hands down, if Batum leaves then we have a 3 who can start or if Batum stays we have Barnes coming off the bench. If Barnes isn't on the board then Andre Drummond is our guy, Can you say lob city!! Drummond, LaMarcus, E.Williams, Batum, and Hickson can all jump for lobs. 
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/01/2012 11:41 AM

    No one needs lop city
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/01/2012 11:53 AM

    Drummond & Lillard.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/01/2012 11:54 AM

    Barnes would make Batum expendable.
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  1. Letsgozers
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    Posted 06/01/2012 5:24 PM

    Package picks and get MKG!
  1. Brock
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    Posted 06/02/2012 7:24 AM

    We need a winner on our team. I would like to see AUSTIN RIVERS with the 11th pick. what do you guys think? He is very aggressive on offense. He has a mad cross over game, killer shooting game, unbelievable dunking game and sick passing ability. Duke Freshman only !! This guy is FORREAL...You choose, either pick a role player PF/C or pick the next NBA ALL STAR* Shooting guard.

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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 06/02/2012 2:12 PM

    Would packaging a 2nd round pick with our 6th be enough to move up to number 5 spot be enough or possibly number 4 spot ?
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 06/02/2012 2:17 PM

    okey, first of all I want to say, that to me, Drummond is very overrated player. I watched some Uconn games last season, and he don't leave some excited opinion for me. But Barnes, it's another topic. If he will be after 5 picks, he will be the biggest steal in this draft. 

    So, in GM place, I will select #6 Barnes (if another team will not select him with higher pick) Plan B will be Beal. ( NOT LILLARD.!!! To me, he is another Fredette, who played in not strong university and when come to NBA, became Bench last guy). #11 K.Marshall, sign with Hibbert, resign with J.J., trade some guys like Babbit and we prefer for a season.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/02/2012 4:43 PM

    I went with Drummond. You can't teach his size, mobility, or athleticism. I wouldn't judge his Freshman season at UConn to critically. Their guards rarely looked for him down low, the program was under the microscope for recruiting violations the entire year, and their head coach, Jim Calhoun, was in and out of the lineup most of the season. Pairing him alongside Aldridge is about the best case scenario for Dre. Not only will he not be relied upon to score down low but LA will take all of the defensive pressure off of him and allow him to just roam the paint, looking for rebounds and shots to block. If he's there at 6, it's a no-brainer. If he's gone and we stay at 6, go with Damian Lillard.
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  1. jwood
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    Posted 06/02/2012 8:11 PM

    we are guaranteed either Barnes, Drummond, or Beale, assuming T-Rob doesn't drop to 6, which i hope does not happen because T-Rob has the least upside of them.  no doubt, we must take one of those three.  they all have all star potential and if we are serious about winning a championship, we need another star player capable of scoring 20 ppg and/or defend the paint and get double doubles.  we need a guy capable of more than what we would get for trading the picks.  We need a Dwayne Wade not a Gerald Wallace.  We're not going to get an elite player through trades or free agency so we must do it through the draft.  Just like OKC.  Small market teams have to get good through the draft if they want to be better than a borderline playoff team.  I hear a lot of fans and experts advocate for trading the picks.  To me, considering all the talent in the Western Conference, all that's going to accomplish is a 7 or 8 seed and a first round playoff elimination at best.  I think we've all had enough of mediocrity.  We need to make the tough choices and do our home work and build through the draft.  No better place to start then two lottery picks in a deep draft. this is a no brainer if you want to see the Blazers win an NBA championship.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 06/02/2012 8:29 PM

    Dont go with Lillard at 6.. we need a pg but thats a streatch that could end up really badly.  I say we trade Wes Matthews and the 6th pick to move up to #2 or #3 and draft MKG or Beal, both of whom could start next to Batum.  Then I say we trade pick #11, 40, and Nolan Smith to Houston for the 14th and 16th pick, where we draft Kendall Marshall and Arnett Moultrie.  We then draft Tu Holloway at #41.  If free agency we sign CJ Miles and Batum, along with JJ Hickson and Flynn.  Bring over Freeland from Europe



    PG-Marshall/Holloway/Flynn

    SG-Beal/Williams

    SF-Batum/Miles/Babbit

    PF-Aldridge/Hickson

    C-Moultrie/Freeland/Przybilla



    Im really high on Moultrie as he is really athletic and can score from anywhere low post or from 3, and he has good ball skills.  This guy I think could end up better than Drummond and he can be our starting 5.  Beal could end up being the next Brandon Roy for all we know, but he has a great jumper and could devolop into an all-star.  Marshall would be our pass-first pg that makes plays for others and runs the team well.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/03/2012 2:43 AM

    Posted By Brock on 06/02/2012 7:24 AM
    We need a winner on our team. I would like to see AUSTIN RIVERS with the 11th pick. what do you guys think? He is very aggressive on offense. He has a mad cross over game, killer shooting game, unbelievable dunking game and sick passing ability. Duke Freshman only !! This guy is FORREAL...You choose, either pick a role player PF/C or pick the next NBA ALL STAR* Shooting guard.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJX8YUrItR8 

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    Rivers is small, and got blanketed stronger guards.  He's not a great defender, will be over-powered often in the nba.  He's going to rely a lot on his shooting and creating off the dribble.  If I'm not mistaken, he only averaged a couple assists per game and I thought he committed more turnovers; that's something to research, but those are stats that can be improved upon in the NBA as he's still young.  The upshot is that he has pedigree and I expect improvements from him, but right now he'd be no more than depth for Matthews because Rivers is not a point guard, and I think Portland needs to draft starters with the 6th and 11th picks... guys like barnes, drummond, marshall, or dangle the 6 to try and move up for MKG.

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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 06/03/2012 3:22 AM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 06/02/2012 4:43 PM
    I went with Drummond. You can't teach his size, mobility, or athleticism. I wouldn't judge his Freshman season at UConn to critically. Their guards rarely looked for him down low, the program was under the microscope for recruiting violations the entire year, and their head coach, Jim Calhoun, was in and out of the lineup most of the season. Pairing him alongside Aldridge is about the best case scenario for Dre. Not only will he not be relied upon to score down low but LA will take all of the defensive pressure off of him and allow him to just roam the paint, looking for rebounds and shots to block. If he's there at 6, it's a no-brainer. If he's gone and we stay at 6, go with Damian Lillard.

    I been hearing a lot of people saying Drummond's the man, but this guy would drive The Schonz mad with his paltry 30% FT shooting.  He better be in the gym 8 hours a day working on that because Portland fans will not have the patience for that crap.  He'll constantly be sitting on the bench at critical points in the game to avoid being fouled.  It's just an ugly situation and one that cannot be overlooked.  He's a project and not just at the free throw line.  

    The only sure prospect in this draft is Davis.  The guys Portland should be more excited about are guys that are closer to what-you-see-is-what-you-get, like Robinson, Jones, O'Quinn, Machado, etc.  I wish the NBA cared more about team players instead of grooming projects with upside.  Rarely do those projects stay put in Portland.  

    Look at Portland's track record:

    Martell Webster
    Travis Outlaw
    Qyntel Woods
    Jermaine O'Neal
    Zach Randolph
    Sebastian Telfair

    ... and the list goes on.  Portland does not have patience to develop players.  Or they're not good enough at scouting talent and find out later these guys aren't as good as they thought they were going to be... so it turns out they're just a waste of time and their stays in Portland are short.  

    I don't think fans will have the patience for drummond or henson, they won't like the lack of strength of guys like zeller or rivers, they won't like the ball hogging attitude of lillard.   

    Historically, what point guards fans have liked?  they didn't like stoudamire, he was always criticized and that's essentially what lillard is... a shoot first PG and it's not want portland needs and it's not going to be what fans want... unless people think he's the next michael jordan, which he's not.

    Honestly, I think Portland may as well sign Jason Kidd via free agency.

    The biggest problem if Portland is John Canzano.  He seems to hate everybody and I think fans just listen to canzano's big mouth too much.  Felton did struggle last year, but he's had some good years, he just doesn't shoot great, but neither does Marshall and people want him.  I think fans are confused about what they want.  Do they want a shooting point guard or one who has no offensive skills, but has potential and can pass?   I dunno.  But why not just bring in a veteran who can play the position and make passes that fans will be excited about.  Kidd has experience fans will appreciate and another possibility is Dragic, who has quickness fans will be excited about, plus he has experience.... then again I guess so did Felton and that move backfired.

    At 6 though, my thoughts are:

    Barnes or trade up and get MGK.  I worry portland won't match whatever Batum's offered (which I think is going to be a lot), and that means a big need for barnes or MGK to start from day 1.  I like drummond's size and some of what he brings to the table, but I worry about him too.  sloppy, crappy free throw shooter.  Is he a true asset or liability?  I like the upside, but I think there's guys at 40 and 41 that can contribute in the paint and complement L.A. as well, and while he's not as big as drummond, Henson can block shots and he's got upside as well.   He should be there at 11.... barnes and henson tho?  I doubt that'll happen.  barnes and marshall is probably what will happen... unless things don't go as planned.   I have seen barnes going as high as 4th in some mock drafts... 
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 06/04/2012 6:05 PM

    Posted By TJ31 on 06/02/2012 8:29 PM


    PG-Marshall/Holloway/Flynn

    SG-Beal/Williams

    SF-Batum/Miles/Babbit

    PF-Aldridge/Hickson

    C-Moultrie/Freeland/Przybilla

    Do you want to miss the playoffs again? Because, with that roster and the coaching position still in the air, Portland would only have one more win than Charlotte (maybe not even that since they'll have a top-2 rookie next year).

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: draft a rebounding big. Get an experienced PG through trade or FA, and work the roster that way. Another rookie PG won't get us anywhere when we're not in a rebuild. With the weak front courts all across the NBA, the best place to put a rookie is either the 5 or 4. Sullinger doesn't look bad on rebounding alone, and he isn't afraid of the post. Might be worth an extra long look.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 06/04/2012 9:27 PM

    Posted By D_pickett on 06/04/2012 6:05 PM

    Posted By TJ31 on 06/02/2012 8:29 PM





    PG-Marshall/Holloway/Flynn



    SG-Beal/Williams



    SF-Batum/Miles/Babbit



    PF-Aldridge/Hickson



    C-Moultrie/Freeland/Przybilla



    Do you want to miss the playoffs again? Because, with that roster and the coaching position still in the air, Portland would only have one more win than Charlotte (maybe not even that since they'll have a top-2 rookie next year).



    I've said it before and I'll say it again: draft a rebounding big. Get an experienced PG through trade or FA, and work the roster that way. Another rookie PG won't get us anywhere when we're not in a rebuild. With the weak front courts all across the NBA, the best place to put a rookie is either the 5 or 4. Sullinger doesn't look bad on rebounding alone, and he isn't afraid of the post. Might be worth an extra long look.


    Moultrie averaged over 10 rebounds a game last year, while drummond averaged 7.5, Meyers Leanard 8.5, and Tyler Zeller 9.5.  Sullinger averaged 9.2 so if you want to draft a rebounding big than Moultrie is the guy to go for.  The rookies we drafted didn't have anywhere near the potential we had, and were projected to go very late first and in the second round (Armon, Nolan, etc.).  Picking up a veteran PG won't get us anywhere closer to a championship, we need a pg that will develop with the team because that will give them a much higher chance to succeed.  We will be a lot better team than at the end of last year as Marshall should be at least as good of a player as Felton was last year, with Moultrie being a huge upgrade over Przybilla and Beal matches Wesleys play style.



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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 06/04/2012 9:40 PM

    I mean that the rookies point guards we drafted didn't have Marshalls potential
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/04/2012 10:24 PM

    With a real GM in place, all that we thought, all that we hoped, all that we wished, needs to be revisited with the addition of this latest acquisition.

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  1. william
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    Posted 06/05/2012 7:46 AM

    What about Austin Rivers?
  1. Chazzle94
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    Posted 06/05/2012 9:05 AM

    From what I've heard, rivers is raw and is a high risk prospect. Should have stayed another year in college. But that's just what I've heard, I don't know much about him.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/05/2012 11:24 AM

    originally i was thinking harrison barnes but i've been hearing damian lilliard has been tearing it up in workouts and im starting to doubt he will fall to 11. i dont want to get into pgotf talk here but if we took lilliard at 6 and snagged steve nash in free agency that would be incredible. nash has that "win now" attitude and could attract other free agents while helping mentor lilliard. that would be AMAZING
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/05/2012 11:25 AM

    *lillard
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  1. Jin Nolasco
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    Posted 06/06/2012 2:35 AM

    Choice 1:Barnes
    Choice 2: Lilliard
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  1. Jin Nolasco
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    Posted 06/06/2012 2:37 AM

    Yes Barnes then Lilliard
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  1. mdmgrand
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    Posted 06/06/2012 6:03 AM

    If Barnes is in fact there, they have to take him.  I have had a gut feeling after this guy underachieved throughout college, that he would be a much better pro.  He could easily pick up the void left by Roy (may still take a year of pro experience), to average 20 PPG, 5 RPG, and probably 4 APG.
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 06/06/2012 12:09 PM

    Cavaliers Expected To Take Barnes At No. 4

    Goodbye Barnes... Okey, if Cavs pick Barnes, Wizards pick Drummond or Beal, we have big chances to see MKG in da RipCity. 

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  1. RjP
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    Posted 06/06/2012 12:18 PM

    Posted By Jin Nolasco on 06/06/2012 2:35 AM
    Choice 1:Barnes
    Choice 2: Lilliard
    I can't understand, why you all want that Lillard? First off all, he not a true PG, if we want true and good PG, pick Marshall with 11 pick. Secondly, Lillard played in not strong University with not strong teams, what means he is a cat in the bag, who is the same level like Armon Johnson or these years 2cond round picks. There are so many biggest talents in the first round, so why we must pick that Lillard?! 
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/06/2012 2:05 PM

    Posted By RjP on 06/06/2012 12:18 PM
    Posted By Jin Nolasco on 06/06/2012 2:35 AM
    Choice 1:Barnes
    Choice 2: Lilliard
    I can't understand, why you all want that Lillard? First off all, he not a true PG, if we want true and good PG, pick Marshall with 11 pick. Secondly, Lillard played in not strong University with not strong teams, what means he is a cat in the bag, who is the same level like Armon Johnson or these years 2cond round picks. There are so many biggest talents in the first round, so why we must pick that Lillard?! 
    I don't get all of this "true" pg or "pure point guard" nonsense. Either the guy can ball or he can't. And from all accounts, Lillard is a baller. He finished 2nd in the NCAA in scoring at 24.5 points per game and did so on only 15.5 shots per night. He gets to the line eight times every game and connects on over 40% of his 3's.

    Also, do not shy away from players just because they played at small schools. Karl Malone came from Louisiana Tech, John Stockton from Gonzaga, Scottie Pippen from Central Arkansas, Jerome Kersey from Longwood, Terry Porter from Wisconsin Stevens-Point, and Kevin Duckworth from Eastern Illinois.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/06/2012 2:07 PM

    From Chad Ford's Chat today-
     "Olshey spent a lot of time on the high school circuit and really values young players who were highly ranked coming out of high school. Look at their picks, DeAndre Jordan, Al-Farouq Aminu, Eric Bledsoe, etc. He also loved OJ Mayo and worked hard to get him. So ... if they can't move up (I could see Beal) as a target, he won't be afraid at all to go after a guy like Andre Drummond or Perry Jones."
    That's good to hear, because I like both prospects and I think both will be much more productive at the NBA level then they were in college. Sometimes college just doesn't tell the full story about what a player's going to look like at the next level.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/06/2012 3:42 PM

    I think #6 is to earlier for Lillard I love the kid he can score and attacks the basket but you have to take the best player available and that would likely be Harrison Barnes. 
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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 06/06/2012 4:33 PM

    It sounds like Cleveland is going to take Barnes because they are very high on him, but you never know. I think it will come down to Drummond and Barnes for sure, but if these rumors are true, Beal is highly likely to be there at 6
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/06/2012 5:29 PM

    If beal is there, take him.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. mattystars
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    Posted 06/06/2012 6:26 PM

    i like the idea of resigning hickson, having a core of hickson, LA and try to sign hibbert, resign Nic, draft Marshall at our #11 and possible get drummond at #6 if we can get a big we can take a risk on drummond
    I am a fan of the pick and roll.. Lillard to Aldridge
  1. TJ31
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    Posted 06/06/2012 11:53 PM

    Drafting Beal would be huge for us as I think he can be an all-star in the near future.  He would make Wesley expandable and we could trade him for big man (maybe back to Utah for Al Jefferson?), and if not for that big of a player he would clear cap space for the future (his contract gets more expensive and is already at $7M).  We could then draft Marshall or Lillard with #11, and then look at free agents. (Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Garnett, etc.)
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/07/2012 1:24 AM

    completely agree. a good example would be kendall marshall only averaging 8 points a game. statistically that would lead one to believe he isn't a talented scorer but he shot around 47% from the field and dished out 9.8 assists on a UNC team with plenty of offense with the likes of harrison barnes, tyler zeller, and john henson. knowing that, you could assume his most efficient duty was to distribute the ball. so i would think it unfair to say he couldn't score. stats aren't everything.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/07/2012 1:38 AM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 06/06/2012 3:42 PM
    I think #6 is to earlier for Lillard I love the kid he can score and attacks the basket but you have to take the best player available and that would likely be Harrison Barnes. 

    #6 might only be a little too high for lillard except for the way he's been showing out in pre-draft workouts, plus he brings scoring at a position which portland desperately needs. if he could distribute a little more he would be higher. either way, i doubt he'll fall to the 11th pick. maybe blazers should trade 11th and some cash or a second rounder to move up to 7 or 8.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/07/2012 1:39 AM

    Posted By commontongue on 06/06/2012 5:29 PM
    If beal is there, take him.

    +1
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  1. Reggie Lucenara
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    Posted 06/07/2012 2:31 AM

    if we pick drummond, well have another bust like oden, webster, nolan smith from the past. blazers always so unlucky
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  1. ashine24
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    Posted 06/07/2012 3:33 AM

    To begin with, we need to aim to draft players that will start or be starting by the end of the season because in my opinion Portland doesn't do well at developing players off the bench. As the roster currently is, this means that there should be a focus on drafting a PG and a C. Obviously the top names being thrown around are Drummond, Lillard, and Marshall.
    Stating that Drummond will bust like Oden is hard to back up. The situation each player was/would be plugged into is completely different. Oden was highly touted and was going to be the immediate defensive corner-piece and superstar big man that we had waited for. If we draft Drummond, its unlikely that there will be as much pressure for stardom and impact placed upon him. Like others have said, Drummond would come in and play off of Aldridge. He'd be looked to for rebounding and an added defensive presence. Given time to develop that isn't that large of a goal for him. 
    The debate of Marshall versus Lillard is something I've spent a lot of time thinking over. Marshall seems like a dynamic player that could make a solid true-PG contribution. Lillard seems like he has a really high ceiling but I feel that he could face more struggles adapting to the NBA game. An important thing to consider is team chemistry. Who would make the team better? If you plug in Marshall, he'll most likely raise the playing level of everyone around him, possibly even helping Batum develop his potential. Lillard might become a star guard that can score from anywhere, but is Batum's expensive resigning worth it if he'll be getting less touches? Someone also noted that Lillard's play style doesn't fit well with Matthew's. I agree. 
    Something that throws a huge twist into the discussion is the loss and pursuit of free agents. If the team goes after a big man like Hibbert, then suddenly the potential pick spent on Drummond is better used on someone else. If the Blazers do draft Drummond, I would ideally like to see them pick up another C for backup and competition, say Brook Lopez or someone. If Batum opts to go somewhere else, suddenly Harrison Barnes or MKG (if he drops) become much more valuable. We could wind up with Drummond, Barnes, and a free agent PG, possibly Dragic. 
    Olshey has made it pretty clear that he isn't interested in signing aged players that want to win a ring before they retire. He wants to "re-tool" the team with young players that are going to be good for a while. This is definitely possible through a combination of the draft and free agency.
    I am a fan of Nic "the squirrel" Batum. Maybe.
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