Larry Brown fired. Next Blazers coach?
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  1. Posted 12/22/2010 2:13 PM

    A lot of fans have been calling for Nate's head this season, including me.  I haven't seen any change to the way the team plays over the 5 years he's been here.  He's a good defensive coach, but his lack of creativity on the offensive end has made the Blazers a one trick pony, Isolation heavy offense.  We all see how well they play when they move the ball, attack the basket, and find the open man.  But when the game is close and in the final minutes, Nate's lack of offensive creativity causes him to regress to his Isolation plays, which do NOT work and have been the reason for us getting knocked out of the first round, and the reason we've been losing games this season.  
    Well now there is a legitimate coach on the market, Larry Brown, who not only has gotten through the first round of the playoffs, but took a one player team (the 76ers with allen iverson) to the finals, AND won a championship with Pistons.  His career highlights read as: 1 Championship, 3 Conference Championships, 10 Division Championships, 18 Playoff appearances in 26 seasons
    Does anybody have any reason why Paul Allen or Cho shouldn't call Larry Brown right at this very moment and offer him the job now, or if he wants to wait next until next year, offer it to him for then.  I'm sorry folks, the Blazers are NOT going to get past this first round this year, IF they make the playoffs.  The players are not responding to Nate anymore.  We need a change now, or next year, but we shouldn't pass up on the opportunity to talk to Larry Brown.

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  1. tigerjoe34
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    Posted 12/22/2010 2:32 PM

    i totally agree nate need to go iv'e been saying that for years now and now that larry brown is available i think we should give him a chance i say goodbye to nate
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  1. DavidFranks503
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    Posted 12/22/2010 3:36 PM

    aaa
  1. DavidFranks503
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    Posted 12/22/2010 3:38 PM

    hello you guys are not making sence
    you think you guys know it all but u guys are ban wagon fans
    so pleases dont talk like that
  1. Posted 12/22/2010 4:46 PM

    Ive been a Blazers fan since 1989, when I was old enough to understand the game (9 years old).  I know die hard blazers fans, my father included, and WE know that it is Nate that got us out of the Jail Blazers era, but it is not him who is going to get us a championship.  He's a defensive specialist, I've watched the Blazers every year, including the years they didn't make the playoffs.  I make plenty of sense, and don't call me a bandwagon fan, I've been probably rooting for these Blazers through thick and thin, longer than you have.  If I was a bandwagon fan, I wouldn't even be posting here because the Blazers have been playing UGLY this year and who would want to jump on a bandwagon and root for that?
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  1. occassia
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    Posted 12/22/2010 5:15 PM

    Brown wasn't fired, he resigned, and not even halfway through the season. Apparently he's left a string of messy team-divorces in his career-path and sounds just a little volatile --that would be a change from Nate, but an improvement? I'm not convinced.

    I'm also not convinced that simply replacing Nate solves much. The team's challenges are many and complex and one change won't address them all.

    Nate has done a good job with this team during his tenure. Of course he plays to his strengths, and hopefully organizes his staff to address areas where he's not so strong. That will be true of any coach.

    These players have had to adjust to an awful lot of changes lately, many of them completely unexpected. We shouldn't be in a hurry to shake them up again, when they're playing as well as they have of late.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 12/22/2010 7:08 PM

    If the Blazers look to rebuild, or even re-tool, a coaching change may be in order as well.  However, at 70, I'm not sure Larry Brown would be a viable long term solution in a rebuilding effort here in Portland
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 12/22/2010 10:20 PM

    How old is Sloan?  I'd take Brown over Nate today.
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  1. blazerdarren77
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    Posted 12/22/2010 11:26 PM

    Do not get Larry Brown. He's interested in one thing only; making a lot of money, but not seeing it all the way through. He bails at the first sight of trouble whole getting as much as  he can on a buyout.
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  1. Efitz
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    Posted 12/23/2010 12:43 PM

    Nate took this team and helped develope its talent , Give him some respect. You cant blame injurys and elements of the game on him.
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  1. firenate
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    Posted 12/23/2010 2:14 PM

    i disagree a bit about the the defense zone D is for college its the worst people talk smack about it all the time and its usually what we run and it doesnt work most teams we play usually have a very high FG% against us and the zone is why but you are right nate has had his chance injuries or not we are the same slow lazy jump shooting team that will never change as long as he is our coach stop holding on to nate because he is a nice guy he DID NOT turn this team around he had nothing to do with the "talent" that was brought in and id say he has only wasted the talent we have had by running the team his way youre not a true fan of the game if you dont see it i have been calling for nate to be fired for the last 3 years and in that time we havent gotten any better and we will never get any better with nate as our coach i would love larry brown to come to portland but i doubt allen will make that call 
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  1. firenate
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    Posted 12/23/2010 2:19 PM

    i think you can blame the injuries on nate he must be doing something wrong we have had the same trainer for years and havent had these injury problems till nate came along and now we are the worst team in the nba for injuries nate himself got injured he brought some curse with him or something 
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 12/23/2010 3:51 PM

    the way i see this is, Brown had a team he put a lot of work into. he tried to build it to fit the team he envisioned in his head, and they had alot of problems over his years there.
    and the thing is, year after year the problems seemed to lighten up, but they were just replaced by disappointed.
    Why would a coach leave a team  that he truly loved due to problems that seemed to just keep coming back or almost impossible to overcome , and come to a team with twice as many problems that he hardly knows?
    i mean you should ask your players if they would like that, because , you know, they are the ones that have to play.....or not....
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 12/23/2010 4:59 PM

    I hope we dont get Brown!!!

    What's funny to me is I absolutely do not think Nate is a championship coach. Last year i said I think when he has a full healthy roster he does not manage his players well, and treats them all differently which erodes confidence and chemistry. However when he is limited to having to stick with certain players, all of a sudden the team starts to gel and players get confidence because they know Nate isn't going to yank them after one bad play.

    Well that's where we are at again and lo and behold, we are playing a little better lately because (a bunch of) players are hurt again!! And he HAS TO stick with players he normally wouldn't let play through a tough stretch, and he goes with the hot hand more often. That's why I think Martell played well when people were hurt, but when he had competition he disappeared. Same with Rudy, same with Batum, same with Bayless. They play so uptight because they are afraid of making mistakes that it makes them play even worse.

    Everyone has bad streaks. The problem is once a Blazer other than Roy or Lamarcus has one, they get yanked and you can tell the trust is gone. I'm pretty sure he hasn't ever let Batum play through 3 or 4 games without extremely limiting his minutes when he goes through one. He knows it's coming. That's why almost EVERY TIME a player comes out of a long slump on any other team, you quite frequently hear them thanking their coach (and teammates) for having the confidence in sticking with them through it all. Never happens here.

    So Nate is not a championship coach to me, but he is still better than Brown, who doesn't seem to be able to keep at one place longer than one year, either by getting fired or quitting every time!
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  1. Alex Pierott
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    Posted 12/23/2010 7:59 PM

    umm brown is  a big d coach not a offensive idk if id take him
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  1. Posted 12/24/2010 10:12 AM

    TomL- Nailed it on the Nate breakdown. 
    To those of you talking about how great the Blazers been playing 'of late'-  Don't get it twisted, we beat Golden State, Milwaukee, and Minnesota!  Cmon folks, those teams are garbage.  And before those 'big' victories we dropped 3 straight.  I believe the Blazers can do it, but Roy needs to sit (our offense flows better without him), and Nate needs to keep Batum in the game (seriously it's really pissing me off) 
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 12/24/2010 2:29 PM

    tom you make a good point about the special privileges that Roy and Aldridge seem to have, but at the same time, when you look at the players on this squad who have the most history with nate, the players that he can rely on game in and out, the players who are the most consistent on a nightly basis, only two come to mind, and its......
    Roy and Aldridge.
    Its not fair, at all to do that, but .....it kind of makes sense...doesnt make it right
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 12/25/2010 8:53 AM

    Those who are calling mcmillan a one trick pony need to look at the team right now.. looks a lot different from the offense a week or two ago.... Hopefully he realized we're better up tempo
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 12/25/2010 8:53 AM

    Those who are calling mcmillan a one trick pony need to look at the team right now.. looks a lot different from the offense a week or two ago.... Hopefully he realized we're better up tempo
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  1. daddylogan
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    Posted 12/25/2010 3:15 PM

    Posted By Ethaniel Keaton Fitzgerald on 12/23/2010 12:43 PM
    Nate took this team and helped develop its talent , Give him some respect. You cant blame injurys and elements of the game on him.

    This is how I feel. I certainly don't get the way some of you think. When Nate DID have a healthy Blazer team they thrived and they won games and then when he didn't have a healthy lineup, he managed to fit the right pieces together to pull out back to back 50 win seasons. Geez folks, like I said before, at the first sign of trouble Blazer fans want to change this and change that and fire this person and trade so and so, etc...It is so ridiculous. Nate is doing just fine for what he has right now...do you really think it is Nate missing all those shots in the fourth quarter or turning the ball over? No...it takes time for groups of players to learn how to play with each other and due to the injuries we have had, we have not had the luxary of a consistant lineup of any kind yet.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 12/25/2010 6:42 PM

    not all fans, i am a Portland PLayer Fan, i dont consider myself i die hard fan, i dont rep rip city tats, or reflect on the great years as i try to fall asleep, so i wont hesitate to step out and call a fault.
    But the "monetary" coaching style is what is killing us, someone mentioned "last few games we have picked it up, so dont hate" well a man will walk the same way to work and step in @#%@ only so many times before he takes a different route.
    It took this guy a couple years to change his stye, and if it led to us winning games, whadda you know, like barack obama said, its time for a change. Maybe a player said something, like "yo coach that aint finna work" hahah. but i like it, im just surprised we havent had this change happen sooner.


    Daddy, you bring up the fact that Nate isnt shooting the ball, you are right.
    But if the players of this organization respect him at all, which i assume they do, they are going to play his way, and thats the problem. 
    Obviously he isnt shooting the buckets, running the floor, but he isnt drawing up any new plays, he is becoming predictable, and for the teams sake, its not helping.
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  1. daddylogan
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    Posted 12/26/2010 1:08 AM

    Posted By TayC on 12/25/2010 6:42 PM
    not all fans, i am a Portland PLayer Fan, i dont consider myself i die hard fan, i dont rep rip city tats, or reflect on the great years as i try to fall asleep, so i wont hesitate to step out and call a fault.
    But the "monetary" coaching style is what is killing us, someone mentioned "last few games we have picked it up, so dont hate" well a man will walk the same way to work and step in @#%@ only so many times before he takes a different route.
    It took this guy a couple years to change his stye, and if it led to us winning games, whadda you know, like barack obama said, its time for a change. Maybe a player said something, like "yo coach that aint finna work" hahah. but i like it, im just surprised we havent had this change happen sooner.


    Daddy, you bring up the fact that Nate isnt shooting the ball, you are right.
    But if the players of this organization respect him at all, which i assume they do, they are going to play his way, and thats the problem. 
    Obviously he isnt shooting the buckets, running the floor, but he isnt drawing up any new plays, he is becoming predictable, and for the teams sake, its not helping.

    But TayC, the plays ARE working and we are getting open shots...they just are not being made my friend!!! Look at The Golden State game tonight...tons of open shots in the 4th, just not knocking them down. As Casey said "if you don't make shot's, you do not win" and that is the truth! LA has been such a huge factor in the last few games that now we have opened up an outside game and what I mean by that is since LA is drawing the double team(s) we are going to get "better looks" with our outside shot...right??? BUT...we still have to have our boys knocking them down or it don't mean squat ya know. Consistency...that is what this Blazer team needs...night to night and week to week. We should have won this game tonight along with about 5-6 others this season that we lost in the same fashion...lack of playing good basketball for all 4 quarters...now you tell me how Nate is responsible for that? Are you saying he only coaches good for 3 quarters of every game? Are you saying that Nate was responsible for his players not rotating out and playing better perimeter defence tonight? This Nate stuff is as silly to me as when we got rid of Adelman...it was all downhill after that. Not taking at a stab at you bro, I actually like alot of your posts but sometimes the players just play bad. Let's fix that first :-)

    peace out,
    daddy
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 12/27/2010 8:35 PM

    okay, word i can feel you to an extent on that.
    The fact that we are running the offense through LA, is great, but like you mentioned when he draws the DT and tosses it out, people have to make those shots!!!

    The only way i guess he can be blamed is that it took him too long to change it up, it took to long to us LA as the offensive tool, it took too long for us to rotate in and out diff players in the 4th.
    It just took too long i guess.
    but anyway.
    word thanks.
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