Mac Has To Go, NOW!!!!!
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  1. Dman
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    Posted 11/30/2010 6:37 PM

    Absolutely, without a doubt, the worst team in the NBA right now. Mac is showing again this year that he can't coach, period. He has no idea how to motivate, how to run an offense or an effect defense. He needs to go now. Down eight or nine points with 2 or 3 minutes left to go, and his whole offense is isolation for Roy and shot clock violations.

    Please Mac, quit while we are way behind.

    I am the biggest Blazer fan ever, but right now it hurts to watch this Mac Blazer team continue to fall apart.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 11/30/2010 9:11 PM

    Ok for discussions sake, let's say he is let go, then who would you replace him with?

    And please do not say Mike Brown. I'm just curious as to what the fans would view as an "upgrade"
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/30/2010 10:11 PM

    Mike Brown would certainly NOT be an upgrade.  I agree.

    Larry Brown though?
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 11/30/2010 10:26 PM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 11/30/2010 9:11 PM
    Ok for discussions sake, let's say he is let go, then who would you replace him with?

    And please do not say Mike Brown. I'm just curious as to what the fans would view as an "upgrade"

    That is what management is for. I've been saying the same thing, who would we replace him with, but the fact is I think almost anyone would be better now (excluding Mike Brown). We need someone to not only challenge EVERYONE on the team by holding them all equally accountable on offense AND defense, but also someone who will grab their attention that they will actually listen to. Someone who holds his ground. We don't need anyone to baby Brandon or Lamarcus (that is why Mike Brown is out of the question due to his lack of leadership with Lebron) because that is what Nate is doing with them. If Brandon is hurt, sit him. If he is not playing D sit him! If Lamarcus whines that Camby is taking all of his rebounds SIT HIM!

    Also Nate absolutely seems incapable of coming up with good decent offensive plays to counter anything. It is so frustrating to watch.
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  1. blazerdarren77
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    Posted 11/30/2010 11:09 PM

    Does anyone think we can get Jeff Van Gundy away from the broadcast booth to do what Nate does?
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 12/01/2010 1:01 AM

    Nate's missing 3 centers, not including Marks
    Przybilla, Oden, Pendergraph
    His bench was thinned even more by trading Jerryd Bayless for a late first round pick in 2011.
    Martell Webster was traded for a rookie that has yet to play meaningful minutes.
    Juwan Howard bailed out to Florida.
    They drafted a kid in Elliot Williams knowing that he'd need some knee surgery.

    Now before I go diving future into Blazer files from this season, I'm won't point any fingers at Coach because I don't know how much leeway Nate has in front office dealings. But a good Blazer showing against the Eastern Champs would put an exclamation point back on Rip City.
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  1. daddylogan
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    Posted 12/01/2010 1:41 AM

    Posted By Tobyus Sanchezo on 12/01/2010 1:01 AM
    Nate's missing 3 centers, not including Marks
    Przybilla, Oden, Pendergraph
    His bench was thinned even more by trading Jerryd Bayless for a late first round pick in 2011.
    Martell Webster was traded for a rookie that has yet to play meaningful minutes.
    Juwan Howard bailed out to Florida.
    They drafted a kid in Elliot Williams knowing that he'd need some knee surgery.

    Now before I go diving future into Blazer files from this season, I'm won't point any fingers at Coach because I don't know how much leeway Nate has in front office dealings. But a good Blazer showing against the Eastern Champs would put an exclamation point back on Rip City.

    I have to agree with this. Everyone just wants to point fingers right now and Nate is the number one target. Geez folks, what does he have to work with??? Not much right now. It is not Nate missing the shots or turning over the ball. The ONLY thing that I will agree with is that Nate does have to step it up on the motivational side. He is too relaxed and brings no excitement what so ever to the game and he needs to get in his players faces when they are playing badly. On the other hand, I would bet everyone thought his decision to start Wes tonight was a good move, right? Batum has really not been consistant enough to be a starter anymore and needs to earn it back by good second team play, which was NOT the case tonight. I don't see him starting again unless Wes goes down with injury. Sometimes the fans turn so quickly on our Blazers and coaches...

    peace out,
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 12/01/2010 2:32 AM

    I don't think it is Nate.
    I think our core players have reached their peak and are on the downside of their careers.

    Camby is old.
    Roy is broken down and looks old.
    Miller is old.

    L.A. is an under achiever and constantly disappears in games where he should rise to the occasion.
    We have no center.
    No one on our bench is a spark.
    Rudy seems to not care.
    our rookies look like rookies.
    Batum lacks any confidence.
    W.M. seems to be the only one out there hustling and playing to win. He has energy, and drive.

    No, I don't think it is nate, I think it is that the team knows it is just a lower middle class team in terms of talent. Now that Oden is a bust and Roy is a bust, the soul is wounded. This team has looked into the mirror and seen that it doesn't have enough talent to go anywhere and that is depressing their play. In a word they look like they have said to themselves "WHY BOTHER."


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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 12/01/2010 3:47 AM

    Posted By Tobyus Sanchezo on 12/01/2010 1:01 AM
    Nate's missing 3 centers, not including Marks
    He would only play one backup and maybe two if everyone got in foul trouble

    His bench was thinned even more by trading Jerryd Bayless for a late first round pick in 2011.
    Now we have Armon, even if he isn't playing great, he is a rookie and it is still fairly early. Plus we still have Patty and don't forget WE ADDED MATTHEWS!

    Martell Webster was traded for a rookie that has yet to play meaningful minutes.
    Marty was hit or miss, mostly miss and didn't know his roll (thanks to Nate), at least we know Babbit won't play! And like I said we have Matthews now.

    Juwan Howard bailed out to Florida.
    meh

    They drafted a kid in Elliot Williams knowing that he'd need some knee surgery.
    Last year we had Batum miss almost half the season, Outlaw missed almost the whole season.

    Now before I go diving future into Blazer files from this season, I'm won't point any fingers at Coach because I don't know how much leeway Nate has in front office dealings. But a good Blazer showing against the Eastern Champs would put an exclamation point back on Rip City.
    This is wishful thinking and you may be in denial... but I hope this happens, I just doubt it.

    Yes Nate doesn't have a lot to work with, but that is not the big problem. The big problem is he doesn't know what to do with what he has. He moves people around and yanks players who miss shots or make a mistake, except Brandon and Lamarcus. This HAS to erode away a players confidence or at least make them subconsciously worry about it making them try too hard to not make mistakes, which in fact causes more mistakes, which causes them to get yanked or lose their starting spot. Then the cycle spirals out of control. I think players need to know their role or their place. No one can know that except for Roy, LA and Camby because Nate will turn on any of those other guys and mess with all the chemistry anyone ever built up because anytime we go through a rough patch he changes something like pulling Batum this year, not starting Dre last year, then starting him, then not again and then finally starting him for good. Make up your damn mind. Not only does it mess with confidence, it messes with chemistry.

    Also Nate does not have ANY good offensive ideas EVER! Time and time again I am getting frustrated in the damn timeouts he calls when we are in dire need of a bucket, and time and time again when we come out of the timeout everyone looks stagnant, confused, lost and scared to shoot or drive and we either end up with an airball or a 24 second violation. 95% of the time I'm sure it just would have been better to just wing it without calling a timeout to let the other team set up their defense properly. What kind of offense is that?!? And what is his solution? Pull Batum out of the starting lineup? Which makes our second unit much worse and makes him lose confidence. Plus our bench was without the spark that Matthews usually brings and we lose length on our starting five which gives us an advantage on most nights.

    I also feel like he is running Brandon into the ground, or letting Brandon do it to himself. He is obviously not 100% and maybe he needs to either play a LOT less for a while or sit out until he can strengthen his knee. All I see is him wincing in pain all the time and playing no defense. And it's frustrating because in 08-09 Brandon was showing HUGE potential to easily be considered becoming top 5 in the league, and right now it seems to be gone, and so I think many people are blaming Nate out of shock or fear... but I have been saying this same thing about Nate for about 2 years now.
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  1. Ike Graul
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    Posted 12/01/2010 9:09 AM

    I disagree that coaching is our main problem. An unusual number of chronic injuries is our main problem. I think "NOW!!!!" is absolutely the worst time possible to make a head coaching change.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 12/01/2010 10:46 AM

    Nate can not defend or make shots for the team......
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  1. pioneerfan
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    Posted 12/01/2010 12:28 PM

    If we don't get a new coach, then who's going to set up a play out of a time-out that actually works?  Us?  We need someone to direct some kind of a motion offense that isn't just an isolation play, duh.  And what about weak side help?  Where is it.  Starting over might be an option.  Hope the new GM knows what he's doing.  If not, one hint might be to always draft the best talent available (maybe "player of the year") regardless of position needs.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 12/01/2010 12:51 PM

    No to Jeff Van Gundy and Larry Brown.

    First, if people complain about Nate's offense, I'd hate to read about their take on Van Gundy's offense. Also, Larry Brown has no loyalty. How many jobs has be taken this decade? Finally, I'd rather not got with a coach who isn't known for playing younger players. Brown didn't do DJ Augustine any favors.
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  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 12/01/2010 1:11 PM

    Posted By blazerfan77 on 11/30/2010 11:09 PM
    Does anyone think we can get Jeff Van Gundy away from the broadcast booth to do what Nate does?


    Van Gundy said next year he will consider coaching again.  I believe Nate is a great coach.  However I also believe that there is a sense of complacency about thi team and they need a new coach that can get into the teams head.  I Just think the team needs something they arn't comfortable with, but a mid-season coach change will be a downward spiral let Nate coach out his contract.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 12/01/2010 2:22 PM

    Spolstra will be available soon.....  that is a joke to liven up the doom around here, it will get better   :)
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 12/01/2010 2:42 PM

    Maybe Cho is working on a deal to trade Mac for Spo?

    ha ha
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 12/01/2010 3:58 PM

    I don't see how firing Nate will boost our FG%...
    Probably see personnel changes before coaching changes.
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  1. rasheedfan2005
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    Posted 12/01/2010 5:05 PM

    give up on nate when he was a serious candidate for coach of the year last year?
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 12/01/2010 9:45 PM

    Yes let's get rid of Nate for the lack of shots not falling, lack of effort exhibited by the players and the stupid turnovers we been making. All Nate's fault he must go.
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 12/02/2010 12:12 AM

    Posted By Bertram on 12/01/2010 9:45 PM
    Yes let's get rid of Nate for the lack of shots not falling, lack of effort exhibited by the players and the stupid turnovers we been making. All Nate's fault he must go.

    I don't know about the others but that is not what I am saying... kind of. I'm saying it seems like the players don't listen to him and he never has a very good offensive strategy or offensive plays to run at critical times of the game... which results in players missing tough shots at the end of the clock, turnovers and way too many shot clock violations.

    I think that has a lot to do with the coach. Of course not having a decent backup center and Roy playing with knee problems makes it stick out more, or makes people feel sorry for Nate, but if you look at what happened in Seattle, it's almost the same thing all over again.
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  1. rasheedfan2005
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    Posted 12/02/2010 7:00 AM

    id say lack of effort and passion might be more a result of the new tech rules and players not being able to be emotional. stern wanted it to be strictly a business, well, here you go jackazz.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 12/02/2010 1:14 PM

    Not saying he needs to go, agree he cant execute for the players. But he was outcoached by Doc last night down the stretch.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 12/02/2010 3:25 PM

    It must be the new hip thing to blame the coach for all of the teams problems.

     Yes let's get rid of Nate for the lack of shots not falling, lack of effort exhibited by the players and the stupid turnovers we been making. All Nate's fault he must go
    Now if he isnt motivating these guys, that is another thing. They should be motivated by Victory and the fans, but if the coach cant get a message through to the guys then yeah there is going to be a problem.
    The coach is just as much to blame as the players.
    And i think its a TEAM Problem, this team needs to ask its members, "do they want to win this year?"
    "Or is this just going to be another year in the books?"
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 12/02/2010 10:16 PM

    Nate hasn't missed any shots on this current road trip.

    Nate hasn't carelessly turned the ball over on this current road trip.

    Nate hasn't failed to secure a crucial rebound in the closing moments of a game...on this current road trip.

    Let's be real.  Where Nate is guilty, is refusing to acknowledge a need for change at the offensive end.  Guilty also, for not going back to man defense.  Instead, settling for sacrificing a staggering .480 OPP FG%.  Nate is guilty of being extremely resistant to change, and for being stubborn.  He now may be guilty of being unable to motivate the team, as many friends here have mentioned.  Those are indeed offenses worthy of dismissal
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  1. mario250775
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    Posted 12/03/2010 9:42 AM

    In my opinion Nate should stay for now , I agree with those who wrote that Nate can't make shots and rebound and defend for the team,  let's wait for next 20 matches and see what happened , how many wins we will have ? wait for Joel and for good play of BATUM, RUDY and other bench players or maybe we can make some good trade ...

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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 12/03/2010 6:41 PM

    After tonight, Nate has to go! A coach is responsible for this and has to take the flack. 6 losses in a row, I take back what I said before - he is the one who has to feel the heat on these 4th quarter collapses. He is calling the one play he knows, ISO ROY - weak call every game and other teams knows this and pressure Roy.  His head must roll. This team is the worst in the NBA right NOW!
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  1. Posted 12/03/2010 6:46 PM

    Nate has no idea what he is doing.  Our team has not changed that much over the last few years, and there is no reason for this constant not knowing what lineup to go with.  We haven't won a game since Nic has been benched.  Nate was simply trying to use Nic as a scapegoat for the Blazers losses.  We can clearly see that Nic is not to blame.  6 in a row!  I usually say not to fire a coach during the season because nobody else can come in and do a better job, but, I don't see how anybody could do worse. 
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  1. Napoleon7
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    Posted 12/03/2010 8:56 PM

    Nates has lost the team.  Players are not responding to him.  It is time to make a change.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 12/03/2010 9:11 PM

    " Bump" !
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  1. RedRudy5
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    Posted 12/06/2010 11:59 AM

    Nate isn't the one missing all the shots- the one going cold for long stretches. I don't understand the mentality of fire the coach when the players don't play well. He seems to be coaching ok for the 1st half of games when we are playing well.... Hope management is patient and doesn't join in with the bandwagon fans yelling to fire Nate.....
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