L.A.'s not soft, you're soft!
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/24/2010 12:41 PM

    Anyone else want to jump on my quit hating on lamarcus bandwagon?

    I'm soooooo incredibly sick of hearing people criticise Lamarcus, we are so lucky to have this guy, maybe its the fact that he was the only one of our big 3 that was on the floor a majority of the season, so he was the one we try to unload all our scrutiny on.

    People complaining that he was soft, when in comparison to previous years, he had improved (in my eyes) a good amount in certain areas that frustrated me previously, oh and he still has a silky jumpshot that spreads the floor pretty well. However, until he finds a way to start emphasizing that money 12-15 footer in a way that has as much impact to fickle fans as a lebron james dunk, he will forever be inferior. Highlight reels and slam dunk competitions don't win championships, fluidity and versatile players that compliment each other on both ends of the floor do(i.e. block to block play between our big men in Oden on the low and Aldridge on the high as that reporter from the columbian was mentioning on the wrap up show last night with rashad floyd).

    Lamarcus kind of faded a bit on the defensive end towards the end of the season, but that will happen when you put a strong player in his weakest position, as a center trying to maintain that low post presence we assumed would be there on defense, lamarcus came up short, but to hold it against him for doing what Nate needed of him is asinine.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 07/24/2010 9:19 PM

    Words cant describe tthe talent that the l train has to offer. the high release, the dominant inside game, intense post moves, and not to mention 6-11, what else can you say, after last season/post season its as much his team as people say its Brandons. I just like looking at it as its their team, all of em, with Oden and Bayless, those four right there with their youth and potential, are this team.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/24/2010 10:52 PM

    Definitely not jumping off that bandwagon. He's soft. However, I've learned to accept that he is not a number 2 option for our team. He's not very good at passing out of double teams, doesn't seem to use the strength he has to really get into great position on the block and just doesn't rebound like he should be able to with his wing span and height. But I've learn to accept that this is what he does, and the blazers have realized that as well and that's why we are lobbying so hard to bring in another star to our team.
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/25/2010 10:36 AM

    He's no Jason Maxiel, but I'd like to think LA is tougher than Hedo (who I think will play the 4 for PHX) and he's tougher than Jeff green or Tyrus Thomas. This next season we could have such a deep roster of centers if all healthy that a 4 with a silky jumpshot will be exactly what we need. Unlike Camby who only has that mid range shot from the top of the key, LA can hit it from most places around the basket. I think Rich Cho will do wonders for Lamarcus this year, with that program he helped design with Microsoft that shows players and coaches where players do the most damage and where they are weakest at on the floor. Lamarcus is making improvements every year, sure he's not improving as fast as we'd like, but as long has moves forward I don't want to throw him under the bus yet.

    The rebounding should go up for LA when we have our shotblockers back in there and he plays his position more regularly. These guys still need time to figure out how to play together. If you guys remember we played really well towards the end of the season when Camby was on the court defensively, but everyone seemed lost when he was on the bench. The blazers have seen so much change in lineups and rosters the last couple seasons, the fact little has changed so far this offseason, except adding more perimeter defense in Mathews and going after the leagues best poing guard, should speak volumes about how much upside this entire team has for next year. Like Kersey said a while back, they played together for a few years before they finally started clicking in the early 90's, maybe that's what our team needs.
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  1. lightskin350
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    Posted 07/25/2010 10:50 AM

    L.A. plays soft at times. He has "rasheed wallace syndrome". Aldridge is so good at hitting mid range jumpers that he relies on them entirely too much. L.A. at times is unguardable when he is on the block. On this team we need LA to put more pressure on opp defenses by getting to the FT line more. When he shoots all of those jumpers, he completely bails the other team out because he can be a beast down low if he wants too.
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  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/25/2010 11:12 AM

    The reason everyone says he's soft is because we are used to the Buck Williams, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Amare Staudamire, and Shawn Kemp type Power Forwards. PF does actually stand for something. That doesn't mean that the Forwards like Lamarcas, Pau, and Tim Duncan don't have a place in the elite players, but they have to have a system around them that fits their style.  Yes, it is a "soft" playing style because they rebound less, they are in traffic less, and they recieve much less contact. I would like to see LA take it to the paint more and recieve contact. Taking contact means getting the other team in Foul trouble and it means the defense has to respect the paint and creating space for guys like Roy to work from the perimeter. Now, having the jumpshot that he does means he can clear the paint for guys like Roy to get in and score that way as well, so the tools he posesses have their place in the Blazers' system, but it would be helpful to have the ability to adapt your style based on your opponent instead of him just being able to shoot jumpers. He did improve this last season, a little, but he still needs to get that grit that he seems to lack. I think Buck Williams will help him develop that.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/25/2010 12:00 PM

    No, no, no. Pau is no longer soft. He's proven that in 2 consecutive years with a championship to show for it. The man is a BEAST. He scraps down low now. He's no Charles Barkley or Karl Malone. Tim Duncan is not soft either. Sure they both have jumpers but none of them are afraid to get down low and pound. LA is soft. Inconsistently decides to be beast, almost never gets down in the trenches and really scrap for rebounds. Rebound isn't about lucky bounces coming your way it's about wanting the ball more then everyone else. But it's ok, thats the kind of player LA is and will be for the rest of his career. That's why we are trying to bring another star to our roster.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 07/25/2010 4:23 PM

    This conversation again?
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/25/2010 5:05 PM

    Posted By kenny c. on 07/25/2010 4:23 PM
    This conversation again?

    Yes, Lamarcus says he's working on his explosiveness which will help him rebound and grab position on the low block, mix that with Buck Williams taking his first shot at teaching a player how to be that gritty player we all know he can be. Plus without Rebecka Harlow there to distract him, he's golden.
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  1. ripcityfan5221
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    Posted 07/25/2010 5:19 PM

    he is soft he needs to work on strength and attitude this off season not shooting he has that all ready.
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  1. EowynAmarie
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    Posted 07/25/2010 9:57 PM

    I'll jump on this bandwagon. I am also tired of hearing fans come down on him over and over again for not being what they want him to be. When Blazer management and coaches start saying that LMA is too "soft", I will give it some credence. Some players are really, really tough, and others are not. LMA may have capabilities, but that does not mean he has to use them, or that they should all be a part of his game. He's young, he's growing, he's still teachable, and I think he believes in working hard. He's got a lot of talent, a sweetly smooth game, and I thought he did an admirable job filling in at center. You have to work with what you have, and not try to force an "atttitude" or "presence" on a player that just isn't that way. Besides, there's a reason we have Joel, Greg, Camby, and even Pendy :)
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  1. JoeFoCho
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    Posted 07/25/2010 11:56 PM

    Funnie seeing u here EA. Ma bad for the "needy" comment. I thought u were someone else. Lol. Ne way LA is untradeable in my book but I have to agree with Bertram when he said that LA kept getting caught in the double team against pheonix in the playoffs. He repeatedly shot from the same spot, becoming predictable and one demensional. You can get away with that in the regular season but not the playoffs. I think some of the problem is the coaches and like previous bloggers, I think the "buck" stops with our new and awesome assistant coach who will show LA a couple of things.
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/26/2010 10:57 AM

    Posted By Bertram on 07/25/2010 12:00 PM
    No, no, no. Pau is no longer soft. He's proven that in 2 consecutive years with a championship to show for it. The man is a BEAST. He scraps down low now. He's no Charles Barkley or Karl Malone. Tim Duncan is not soft either. Sure they both have jumpers but none of them are afraid to get down low and pound. LA is soft. Inconsistently decides to be beast, almost never gets down in the trenches and really scrap for rebounds. Rebound isn't about lucky bounces coming your way it's about wanting the ball more then everyone else. But it's ok, thats the kind of player LA is and will be for the rest of his career. That's why we are trying to bring another star to our roster.

    This is true, but what were they all regarded as after three years in the league? It wasn't until he came to LA that Pau wasn't thought of as "soft." This just proves that just because someone plays soft, doesn't mean they can't develop the ability to be a beast on a consistent basis. I hope that the addition of Buck to the coaching team will help with that.
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