Blazer Fans: The Nic Batum Dilemma
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:08 PM

    Which scenario do you prefer?
    Trading for CP3, but Batum's included (68)
     55%
    Trading for a second-tier PG without involving Batum (55)
     45%



    From Oregon Live-
     The network that brought us "The Decision," ESPN, followed Berger's report by saying that while the Magic and Knicks are on Paul's list of preferred destinations, the Lakers are not. The network's Chris Broussard reported that Dallas and, yes, Portland, could also be in play.
    With the recent information leaking out that the Portland Trail Blazers are one of a select handful of teams Chris Paul would like to be traded to, the questions now for Blazers' fans is not whether we want him on this roster or not (duh would be the obvious answer), but whom would you be willing to part with in order to get the deal done? If this were NBA2K11, we'd simply throw in a few expiring contracts, maybe a young player or two, and multiple first round draft picks. Unfortunately, this is real life and if you came at the Hornets with an offer that weak ,they'll laugh and proceed to hang up the phone. The sticking point in all of these CP3 rumors from fans and media alike have all came down to one beloved Frenchman, Nicolas Batum.

    As a Trail Blazers fan, if you had to decide between acquiring Chris Paul, but losing Nicolas Batum or acquiring a second-tier Point Guard (NOT Tony Parker) such as Mo Williams or Devin Harris AND Batum stays, which one do you pick?

    -Credit goes to BDawg for the great poll question!

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:15 PM

    I'm in the middle. I voted to keep Batum, but a part of me says why? We have the opportunity to add one of the best point guards in the NBA in the past 2 decades for someone who can be potentially a Tayshaun Prince type of player.
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:20 PM

    I guess if it comes down to are the Blazers better with C. Paul and not Nic... or are the Blazers with Nic and Harris or Williams, but not C. Paul? I would go with the second choice.

    There's a good chance if you traded Nic for Paul, in two years you wouldn't have either one. I would stick with Batum - although I do have to admit, signing Matthews would make a Batum for Paul trade a little easier.

    C. Paul, B. Roy, W. Matthews, L. Aldridge, G. Oden  <-- AWESOME!
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  1. blazers3030
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:21 PM

    Nic Batum is a very good role player, but if we want to seriously contend for an NBA championship we need a playmaker like CP3. Paul is the best point guard in the league (yes he is better tan D Will and Rose) and if there is any way we could keep the big three in portland and get Paul, we would the BEST team in the league. If we keep Nic and get a second level point guard, we will be in allot of playoff games. If we get CP3 we will be hanging multiple championship banners in the Rose Garden.  
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  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:32 PM

    50/50 WoW! I think you do it. Don't get me wrong, it is a hard decision, but given that Monty Williams is the head coach down there and he's going to be losing the player he wants most to stay his best scenario available is to bring in Batum, a player he is familiar with and help him out. You have to give something to get something and I think the fact that Williams is the head coach and you offer Batum, you may get him to lobby for us in the main office. Help him out to recieve help in return.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:33 PM

    First off, don't worry about losing Paul. When's the last time we've brought someone in via trade and they didn't absolutely fall in love with the city? We won over Marcus Camby very quickly and I just don't see Paul moving to another team when he has some of the best fans in the NBA right behind him every night and have the most talented group of teammates in the entire NBA.

    PROS for Paul: A lot of people say Batum could be something special, and while I agree with that, Paul is ALREADY special and young to. We can only hope Batum ends up an All-Star but Paul is already waiting for his ticket Springfield, MA (Hall of Fame). Look at what Paul did for the likes of West and Chandler, just imagine how much easier he'd make life for G.O. and Aldridge! For those who don't think Roy can play off the ball, just watch the 08 and 09 All-Star games. There's no coincidence the West went on huge runs both years with those two in the backcourt. They have a natural chemistry together and would most likely go down as the top backcourt ever to play in the NBA. Also, the addition of Matthews does make the pill a lot easier to swallow in regards to dealing a fan favorite.

    CONS- We'd be without our best wing defender and possibly one of the premier defensive players on the perimeter. Unless we make another move, our outside shooting would take a small as Batum is still, in my mind, our best 3 point shooter, but we do have Babbitt waiting in the wings and Wesley is no slouch either. Although he can play in stretches at the SF spot, at 6-5, can WEsley play the 3 full-time?
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  1. GuitarJ111
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:38 PM

    This is a tough one for sure.  I would hate to part with Nic especially knowing that Cp3 could be up and out of here in 2 years.  That would suck not to have either of them at that point.  BUT after just watching the Cp3 highlight reel and other amazing videos of him, its hard to say that I wouldnt want him here no matter what.  Im glad Im not in charge of making this decision, thats for sure.  
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/22/2010 2:54 PM

    I love Batum, easily my 2nd fv. Blazer behind Oden, but the team must come first and Paul on Portland is for the greater good.

    Which team is better?

    PG-Paul/Bayless/Johnson
    SG-Roy/Williams
    SF-Matthews/Babbitt/Cunningham
    PF-Aldridge/Okafor/Cunningham
    C- Oden/Camby/Pendergraph

    OR

    PG- D. Harris/Bayless/(Johnson/Mills)
    SG- Roy/Matthews/Williams
    SF- Batum/Matthews/Babbitt
    PF- Aldridge/Cunningham
    C-  Oden/Camby/Pendergraph
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  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:04 PM

    It is a hard choice, but I actually think the opportunity to get Paul is too big to let go.
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  1. Jachin Rupe
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:12 PM

    Getting Paul should be priority.  This is tough, but having Paul on your team is a no brainer.  I love Batum, he has amazing full court defense in his blocking ability, but CP3+Roy+Camby/Oden=championship.
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  1. Mark
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:31 PM

    Batum, Bayless, Miller for CP3? Would that work out? I'm too lazy to check out salaries and whatnot. I absolutely love Batum's game, but like people have said, if you have a chance to get Chris Paul, you do it. One thing I do not like about CP3 though, is his whining to the officials all the time.
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:37 PM

    whew! changing my mind again. if we could extend paul for like 5 years i would trade batum in a heartbeat. i just hate to see him come and go before we get a championship and then leave us without batum. it looks good in the short term, but in the long term it could hurt us. man! what an awesome backcourt that would be though.
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:37 PM

    whew! changing my mind again. if we could extend paul for like 5 years i would trade batum in a heartbeat. i just hate to see him come and go before we get a championship and then leave us without batum. it looks good in the short term, but in the long term it could hurt us. man! what an awesome backcourt that would be though.
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  1. Alex
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:40 PM

    I tried this out with the ESPN Trade Machine, This is what happend: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22o8hvu
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  1. Alex
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:40 PM

    I tried this out with the ESPN Trade Machine, This is what happend: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22o8hvu
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/22/2010 3:42 PM

    @ mark... we'd still be about 1.4 million short in the ammount we would need to send out. Take out Bayless and put in Joel and it works. NO isn't really in need of another young guard, and they would want the expiring contracts of Joel and Miller back, along with Batum. I think that's what they're looking at. Bayless has more value to us now than Joel does anyway.
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  1. Hg
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    Posted 07/22/2010 4:12 PM

    If it wasn't for the new trend and CP3 already in with Carmelo and Stoudemire I might agree, but for just a short two years that is giving to much away. I do believe CP3 will walk.

    I also believe we can win championships without him--I even think in about 2 years we can win with what we have. That is what I am hoping for.

    I think PG and Quarterbacks are both over-rated. Paul wants to be traded for a better supporting cast. Another good PG or a trained PG can do the same. It has to be a team effort to win it all. Do you think CP3 can keep the team together with just him and BRoy doing the scoring?

    Hg

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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 07/22/2010 4:13 PM

    To me, there is no dilema. Nic is untouchable !!
    But, I am so sick of the Blazers reasonings and quests for " the next great pg "  over the last 4 years, that if Nic goes, it will be the end of my rope this summer.
     Wesley is not Nic, and does not make him expendable.
    I will have to take my talent to south beach too ;)
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  1. GuitarJ111
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    Posted 07/22/2010 4:20 PM

    I was waiting for you to weigh in Kim! ;)  CP3 is obviously really really good, but Nic is... NIC!  He is untouchable, I totally agree.  I know that the Blazers will regret that decision one day if he does get traded, it will be a sad sad day!  
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/22/2010 6:16 PM

    It's definitely a hard decision. This is what you are looking at. A pretty much shoe-in to the Hall of Fame player vs. a potential all-star caliber player. Cp3 is all-nba team and defense team every single year. Batum can be on that same defense team with how he is improving.
     I'm going to have to argue and say that Wesley Matthews does better against perimeter scorers like Kobe Bryant, Carmello Anthony and Kevin Durant...however Batum has great length and it does cause fits in the middle from the help side. He can develop to be a great defender but at this point he has overrated defense among Blazer fans.
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  1. t bone
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    Posted 07/22/2010 6:46 PM

    I hate this question.  At current face value, CP3 for Batum, Bayless, Fernandez and Joel's contract seems like an easy yes.  The question is how badly will we regret this trade if Batum becomes the next Pippen?  Or if Bayless continues to improve and learn the things Andre does so well (which would frankly put him right up with the elite PGs in this league given the skills he already has).  Or worse yet, what if CP3 continues to battle injuries while Batum and Bayless take off?
  1. Lapinnoir
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    Posted 07/22/2010 6:48 PM

    no man Batum is one of my favorite players right now and to me he offers a lot more than CP3 does.  Batum along with his great defense also has a unique attitude that is hard to find sometimes.  Batum has this attitude of always trying to do his best and working hard to get there.  That attitude brings something to the team.  Right now the blazers seem like some kind of a shining beacon, a team filled with guys with their head on straight who work hard and stay humble.  This attitude, however, comes from guys like Batum and without him it shifts the balance.  I'm not saying CP3 is not one of the most sensible and determined players out there because he is!.  But he does not bring what Batum does.  A hardworking young player can help keep other players likeminded and cohesive.  CP3 is a great point guard be he does come from a different situation and the time it would take to adjust may e unnecessary i believe a team with Batum as a small forward truly could make it to the finals so why fill one spot to lose another. anyways batum's game is fun to watch with his great range and cool dunks and who here really wants to pass up the opportunity of seeing roy starting as point guard and getting williams and batum together with oden and alderidge to make a really well defensivly and offensivly rounded first unit.
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  1. graceinyaface788
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    Posted 07/22/2010 7:16 PM

    I understand the desire to aquire the big names...but to me that takes away from what is great about the Blazers. We are made up of young guys full of potential that are getting better and better each year...patience people, let's not get rid of our guys just to let them go somewhere else and become the stars they are destined to be. I say keep Nic and be patient, he's great and olny getting better. Championships are not won overnight, anything worth getting is worth waiting for.
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  1. graceinyaface788
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    Posted 07/22/2010 7:18 PM

    P.S. CP's girlfriend sat behind me at a game last year and wow was she annoying...another good reason to keep Nicolas :)
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 07/22/2010 7:29 PM

    Maybe we could give them Wesley instead of Batum
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 07/22/2010 7:38 PM

    Best scenario?
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2afuenk
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 07/22/2010 7:39 PM

    Whoops:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2afuenk

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  1. MT''s Back
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    Posted 07/22/2010 7:45 PM

    give them the rights to petteri koponen and joel freeland.. that will work!
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  1. lightskin350
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    Posted 07/22/2010 8:14 PM

    Chris Paul is a SUPERSTAR and being able to trade for one (expecially a PG) comes every decade or so. Paul with Roy and a healthy Oden puts the Blazers on the same playing field as the Lakers. Nate has wanted a veteran PG for the last 5 seasons. If Portland is able to land cp3 and it's a big "maybe".........Oden's game would take off because of the easy shots that Paul would get him. If it takes Batum or even LA You do it!
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 07/22/2010 8:37 PM

    No surprise amongst Blazer faithful that this poll is so close.  The love affair that this town has for the little guy, the underdog, the boy next door is second to none.  However, after doing a little research, one may find that Chris Paul's story, particularly as a young man growing up, is not too far from the storyline we Blazer fans value.  Very strong work ethic and an unquestionable desire to win make him a favorite of mine.  That being said, this would still be a difficult decision for me.  I would go get Paul.  As much as Nic means to this team, a healthy and happy (my only stipulation) CP3 would mean more.  This is a business after all, so we must resist the urge to "over-value" our talent.  I believe that if, in fact, Portland is on Paul's short list, he would be happy here.  I agree with so many of you, that acquiring Matthews makes this deal easier for me.

    Look, I know we all love Nic, but I think you have to stop and ask yourselves:  Are you prepared to deny our other hard working, high character players like BRoy the chance at a championship(or many?) for the sake of one?
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/22/2010 8:48 PM

    Hey, you know what, at the end of the day it wouldnt be the first time the Blazers made a bad decision. My vote is to keep Nic. Between matthews and Batum, i really dont dont have to worry about him coming to my town. i want to play the best. I want to beat the best. Yeah, yeah, i know he's one of the best pg's in the game. But thats just it, one of the best. Not the best. We've got nice pieces, capable of playing and beating anyone. I never bet against us no matter who we play. Allen's got deep pockets. You want him, buy him. Afterall, whats luxury tax to a billionaire? Lets see what our squad can do, as is. Nic stays.
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  1. broy4mvp!!!
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    Posted 07/22/2010 8:54 PM

    Well I guess it depends on who we would get if not Paul. And who we would give up. But in my opinion getting Chris Paul would make the team better. Though I do like Batum, I like Paul better. A possible best pg in the league, or good defender/average offensive scoring threat. I pick potential MVP. Honestly i didnt like Miller that much last year. Andre could score, but often tried to force himself. I say trade Batum and Miller and a second round pick in a couple years for Chris Paul!!! I think we can manage more this year with Batum then last year with the acquisition of Wesley Matthews, he can bring the D that Batum brought last year. I know if Paul, Roy, LA, Oden, and Matthews were the starters, I would throw a party every time they played.  
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  1. Posted 07/22/2010 8:55 PM

    If the Blazers want to be a championship team then we need a Chris Paul!
  1. Posted 07/22/2010 8:59 PM

    i love batum to death. but if we want to be champs we need a paul to lead the team. all the teams that win have a point gaurd that lead the team.
  1. voytenkoviktor
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    Posted 07/22/2010 9:24 PM

    Batum has to go with with who ever else... But BROY stays I would love to say ODEN too but im 50/50 on him so i really dont know. If we want a championship NOW we make the trade if u wanna wait u dont make the deal. Plus they gonna want Camby or Oden too so keep that in mind because Okafor has to come with Paul :(  But think about it Cris Paul is a SUPER STAR that's Proven and one of the best point gourds out there if not the best. I believe we can win with the group we have now but its going to take a couple years sorry to say but true :(
  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 07/22/2010 9:33 PM

    There has to be a third option to keep Batum and get CP3. We gotta do something with lamarcus! Trade him somewhere to get someone the hornets want!!! There has to be another option. Only way that we do this with Nic is if CP3 really really wants to be here and he won't bolt as soon as he gets a chance becauase we don't quite know Batum's ceiling yet. I also liked Andre, but Paul is a much better shooter. And on second thought i guess Lamarcus would probably (seem to) get better playing with Paul.
    And broy4mvp we need defense from everyone, not just one player at a time.

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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 07/22/2010 9:34 PM

    Man, its a tough choice. I think Paul brings more to the table right now than Batum does. Paul can most likely elevate LMA and Oden's game to all-star status (if Paul can make David West a All-Star, he can surely make LMA one. Batum can't work that kind of magic) As well as make one of the most explosive back-court duos Portland has ever seen. 

    Losing a solid wing defender hurts, especially in the West but the signing of Matthews lightens the sting...a little.
    The rumors are that the deal was all but finished during draft day...I'm sure we can find a third team to work this out. Worst case, NO convinces CP3 to stay, it doesn't go down no harm no foul just some nice off-season drama. :P
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 07/22/2010 9:54 PM

    Also dhawes22 your choices are actually ridiculous when you stop and think about it. We already have a 2nd tier pg in Miller, so why would we trade for another one?!?! We need a real backup to Miller and hopefully Millls or Armon could step up. We either trade for a higher tier pg or do something with our backups, we don't need to trade for a 2nd tier pg! If I was Andre I would be real upset with you!
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  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/22/2010 10:02 PM

    Here is something that noone has mentioned yet about the reality of the situation. Batum will probably become an All-Star calliber SF. But typically, and given Batums limited ball handling skills, he is not going to be the type of SF that makes the players around him better. CP3 will make LA better offensively, CP3 will make Oden better offensively, CP3 will allow Brandon to stay healthy thus allowing him to be more effective on BOTH ends of the floor and THUS making him better. Batum, spreads the floor and plays hard defense which allows Brandon space to work offensively, but that doesn't come close to the impact CP3 could have on this starting unit. Having Matthews doesn't necessarily make Batum expendable, but what it does is reduce the net loss by giving up Batum and by getting CP4 in return does boost Portlands net gain over that of getting a Tony Parker of Chauncy Billups type PG.
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  1. rob10s14
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    Posted 07/22/2010 11:42 PM

    i would much rather see nic go then see greg oden because one of them has to go in a trade for paul. thoughts?
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  1. JoeFoCho
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    Posted 07/22/2010 11:44 PM

    I'm a little uneasy about the question. I would have to agree with much of what everyone said. Chris Paul is an unstoppable speedy gonzalez and a maniac when it comes to assists per game when he wants to be. He would obviously help improve the team. But one mark against him is when the HORNETS played the NUGGETS in the PLAYOFFS. The Hornets were a solid team back then but they got KILLED! CP3 was part of the problem.. Allow me to explain. While he might be quick, he's short (6-0) and not much power. Against a big team like the nuggets and matching up with billups, he wasn''t much of a matchup. Not to mention how much he gets injured. If we don't get at least to the Western Conference Finals then he'll walk in two years. He's too FULL OF HIMSELF and that doesn't match the BLAZER"S CULTURE Besides, how can he pass up Stoudemire and Melo as his teammates in NYC. Stick with what's a sure thing Batum Baby! and not a quick fix.Like many fans said, we don't want to be without Batum and CP3 in two years. But I'm just a fan and ultimately that's Paul Allen's decision. There were already rumors that the Blazers offered half Prysbilla, Miller, Bayless and Batum for CP3...
  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 07/23/2010 12:01 AM

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fvlyjp

    what about this trade?
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  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 07/23/2010 12:01 AM

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fvlyjp

    what about this trade?
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  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 07/23/2010 12:01 AM

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fvlyjp

    what about this trade?
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  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 07/23/2010 12:01 AM

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fvlyjp

    what about this trade?
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  1. JoeFoCho
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    Posted 07/23/2010 12:40 AM

    Yea. That's a better trade and maybe the Blazer's are pursing other opportunities. Besides, Paul's a longshot to go to Portland anyway.
  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 07/23/2010 4:20 AM

    i try to see the glass as half full and replaced batum with rudy
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 07/23/2010 4:28 AM

    i cant honestly see a perfect solution but if you can get paul you have to. you couldnt blame cho if it does happen
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 07/23/2010 4:45 AM

    I see Broy out there busting his butt game after game. He is the most consistant player we have hence Superstar. LA has no consistancy to his game. He has gotten better but he folded like a cheap suit in the play offs. Great players make great plays. Andre picked up the slack on one game and was double teamed the next and LA was silent as was the rest of the team. Broy needs help on a for sure basis. We did not get it for Clyde lets do the right thing and get it for Broy.Batum is a could be and a maybe, Oden is a probably lets hope he stays healthy. Chris Paul is a for sure. Consistancy is what Chris Paul will bring.That is what the Blazers need the most. If you think point guards are over rated than ask yourself this question. If John Stockton or Bob Cousey would have said I dont want to play for my team anymore(no FA in Cousey's era)how many owners and coaches would have given a body part for them? That is how good this guy is or will be. On the other side of the coin I honestly believe for Paul the best fit for him is the Blazers They have the best young team groomed for team play with a rotating PG spot looking for a fit. Lets get it done. Just my opinion 
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 07/23/2010 5:21 AM

    Posted By RipCityRevival on 07/22/2010 10:02 PM
    Here is something that noone has mentioned yet about the reality of the situation. Batum will probably become an All-Star calliber SF. But typically, and given Batums limited ball handling skills, he is not going to be the type of SF that makes the players around him better. CP3 will make LA better offensively, CP3 will make Oden better offensively, CP3 will allow Brandon to stay healthy thus allowing him to be more effective on BOTH ends of the floor and THUS making him better. Batum, spreads the floor and plays hard defense which allows Brandon space to work offensively, but that doesn't come close to the impact CP3 could have on this starting unit. Having Matthews doesn't necessarily make Batum expendable, but what it does is reduce the net loss by giving up Batum and by getting CP4 in return does boost Portlands net gain over that of getting a Tony Parker of Chauncy Billups type PG.
    Very well said my friend.  Also lost here, has been the organizations understanding that, in order to prolong Roy's career, another star will have to be added to the roster.  Brandon Roy has been carrying the weight of this team on his back (and knees) for too long now.  Teams have been able to simply "load up" on him defensively.  The offense has become stagnate and predictable, while the rest of the talented players sharing the court with him at any given moment simply stand and watch.  Recently, Roy has publicly stated that he understands the need to improve his game while not having the ball in his hands.  Couple his improvement in this area with the addition of the best PG in the league, and you've got a very nice dynamic.  Paul is a legitimate triple threat.  He can shoot.  So where do the double-teams come from?  Opponents cannot leave ANYONE on our talented roster while a PG like Paul is on the floor.  Disection is the result.  With Paul, you not only have that star to help pull all the defensive attention from Roy, you also get one of, if not the best PG in the game...and a player that makes everyone around him even better, Roy included.  Extend Roy's career and take this team to the next level.  Do the deal.

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