Is Greg Oden The Key To A Title In Portland?
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/13/2010 2:26 PM

    Is Greg Oden The Key To A Title?
    YES (35)
     85%
    NO (6)
     15%
    I believe he is and here's why: (A snippet from my BLOG)

     After LeBron James made it clear he was joining forces with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami, not only did the Heat instantly became the biggest threat to dethrone the two-time defending champion Lakers, but now has the potential to collect a lot more hardware down the road due to the average age of their three-headed monster being only 26. Only before could such a 'Super Team' be created by arm-chair General Managers in virtual reality, duping the computer into accepting lopsided deals where player ratings reign supreme and factors such as youth, contract, and importance to their respective cities fall by the wayside. But what once was an unreal fantasy has now turned into a harsh reality for the rest of the league.

    With arguably three of the top 15 players in the league on the same team, at different positions, it's difficult to find a chink in their armor. There are concerns about chemistry, or a lack thereof. Depth must also be taken into consideration, as it looks like it'll be the Big Three and not much else. Lastly, while the Heat could become a nightmare on the perimeter defensively, there is a lot to be desired on the interior. But this isn't the NCAA Tournament where all it takes is one flawless game from the underdog, reminiscent of Villanova over Georgetown in the 1985 championship game, for David to knock off Goliath. It takes a sustained effort over the course of a seven game series to accomplish that feat.

    For all of the Trail Blazers fans out there looking for an '85 Delorean and flux capacitor in hopes of heading back to June 28th, 2007 and convincing Portland management to select Kevin Durant instead of Greg Oden, relax, because the choice is becoming increasingly apparent. While Durant is already living up to the 'scoring assassin' label former GM, Kevin Pritchard dubbed him during his pre-draft workout in Portland and is arguably the more talented player than his 2007 draft counterpart, his skill set, added to the current roster, will not send BlazerManiacs storming down Broadway, hanging from light fixtures or filling up Pioneer Square for a championship rally. While Roy, Durant, and Aldridge would undoubtedly be the greatest trifecta in Blazers history, it wouldn't be enough to overthrow the Heat. To conquer the unconquerable, Portland must possess something, someone which is unattainable by any other franchise.

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    Again, all of this is on the assumption he is going to remain healthy, but its a risk I would take. He's a once in a decade player and I really think our team with a strong Oden is better than the Heat, Lakers, or any other team constructed out there. What are your thoughts? I know Oden is a polarizing figure around here, but I'm on the wagon, are you?
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  1. EthanMoney
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    Posted 07/13/2010 2:45 PM

    History has shown that teams with All-Star centers have won most of the NBA championships. Just take a look at the teams that have won it the past and you will see just how important an All-Star center really is (http://www.nba.com/history/finals/champions.html)
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/13/2010 3:24 PM

    Before the super team formed in Miami, I was willing to deal Oden for CP3, now I wouldn't. You need a center, a dominant one, in this league if you are to beat that Miami Heat team. not even the Heat, but LA possesses some of the best big man combos in the game and we would have to go through them just to get a crack at the Heat. I am a firm believer in going big or going home. I don't want to play for division titles or 2nd round exits. Oden will make us or break us, but with our core already set in stone with Batum Roy and Aldridge, its time to take the gamble on Greg.

    Ethan's right. Look at Shaq, Hakeem, and Duncan. They won the bulk of the championships lately and Boston and the Lakers won it more recently with an array of all-star bigs. Marcus is great, but he's not what we need as a full-time starter to get over the hump.
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  1. Holmsey
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    Posted 07/13/2010 3:56 PM

    I hate to say it but, Greg IS the key to the Blazers winning a championship. I really like the fact we signed Camby. He can help Greg learn his position. Obviously his health is the most important thing to him staying on the floor, but after that, it will be his ability or lack there of to stay out of foul trouble. I believe he has made great strides in this area considering his complete lack of playing time. We were able to see what rehabbing and working with Asst coaches in the off-season was able to do for Greg at the start of last year. Now put him in practice with someone like Marcus and I think he can only get smoother and craftier while improving his timing and foot work. Actually, now that Iv'e written it out it appears that Marcus Camby could be the KEY to a Championship in Portland (Indirectly of course).
     Having said all of this concerning our centers, I can't help but dream of a point guard the likes of CP3 or Mr. Longoria running this team. I know our hope is that we have maybe drafted someone that will someday turn into that person but we have one year on Millers contract to find out. And although I believe Miller can steer this team to the WCF, I do not think he can get us to the promise land. 
    So, one key lies in the health and ability to learn from our big man, the other I am sorry to say we need to find and find him quickly!!

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/13/2010 5:23 PM

    I wouldn't say he's the key to our championship, a major cornerstone yes however I think we can win it without him with some of our young talent improving.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 07/13/2010 6:02 PM

    Agreed.  Immediately after Portland was ousted in this years playoff appearance, I posted on this site that the Lakers would go on to win it all.  My reasons...Bynum (health was a stipulation) and Gasol.  After the fact, ofcourse, many will claim they too saw the trophy being hoisted by Kobe.  To win a title in todays game, you must have dominant post play and at BOTH ends.  Our beloved Blazers were the only team early on, while healthy, to give the eventual champions noteworthy problems.  Why...because of our length and athleticism.  This is not rocket science.  Greg Oden, had he finished this season, would have finished as a first-time allstar, and would have been likely regarded as the best center in the west.  With a little fine tuning, and ofcourse some good fortune in the health department, I have no doubts that he could eventually overtake Howard as the best in the league.  You don't trade that...for anything.   Improvoing his footwork, and learning how to spin with the ball at his chest or over his head will make G.O. a VERY DIFFICULT cover for anyone.  When in the game, Oden is a GAME CHANGER.  He alters everything.  Again, you don't trade that for ANYTHING.  Whistles are swallowed, so you must be able to play inside-out in the post-season. 
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  1. Hopman27
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    Posted 07/13/2010 9:47 PM

    I would never trade Oden for Paul.  Oden is a beast.  I know health issues are a concern, but that won't stop Oden.  I hope his body adjusts to the game though.

    But let's be really honest with ourselves, though.  If it weren't for the injury curse last season, Lakers would NOT be the champions, because we would be the Western Conference Champs.  As for Finals, I really believe we could have won against some weak team like Boston.  Okay, they got Rondo, then Pierce, Garnett, Allen, so what?  Our team could have handled them.

    Hope the injury curse doesn't stick around with us next season and many seasons after that.  If anything, let's all hope the injury curse lands on Miami.  Lol.  Then they'll know what it feels like to be the Blazers in 2009-2010: has ALL the potential in the world to be champs, but failed only because of the injuries.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/14/2010 12:59 AM

    If this was facebook I'd like your post haha.
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 07/14/2010 4:13 AM

     I was leary about drafting Oden. The Blazers have a curse at center. I do hope it ends with Oden. Leroy Ellis,Lloyd Neal,Bill Walton,Sam Bowie,Sabonis,All of these guys were hurt most of the time and I know I am missing a few. Bill stayed healthy for one year. I would love for Greg to stay healthy for longer than that. If he improves the same amount this year as he did last year and stays healthy I am pretty sure that we can keep the trophy out of the East's hands.
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  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/14/2010 11:16 AM

    Could he do it without Brandon and LA? No, but if he is as good as he has been hyped up to be then absolutely he is the missing piece to the puzzle and subsequently the "key" to unlocking a championship run.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 07/14/2010 6:58 PM

    On the 3rd year of this topic.......
     NO , he is not the key. No one player is. The Blazers need a healthy center. It does not have to be Oden to win a championship. With the combination of Oden/Camby/Pryz they are in pretty good shape now.
    We have not even seen Oden run in how long now ??  Part of the reason we get disappointed is because we expect to much from a 21 year old. 
    Let Oden play half a season first, then ask again.
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  1. FamousRoy
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    Posted 07/15/2010 7:55 PM

    Nope; As much as I love the Blazers, I am almost sure that even a healthy Oden, Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Nicolas Batum, and Andre Miller are not enough to win a championship any time soon.  The Lakers and Heat are too good.
    However, like any true Blazer fan, I do believe that the Blazers are on the rise and can make it deep into the playoffs.  And yes, I believe Oden is the key to accomplishing this.  Brandon Roy has yet to play with a dominant center, and I think that if he's paired with a healthy, not-in-foul-trouble Oden, only good things will happen.


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  1. xvillainx_1
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    Posted 07/16/2010 3:15 AM

    NO..
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/16/2010 9:09 AM

    I'll say our Center depth is our key to a title. We have incredible depth at the 1 and the 5, in my undervalued opinion the two most important positions, sorry lebron/wade/bosch
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/16/2010 12:53 PM

    I agree with you. The point controls the pace of the offense and the center is the point guard in the defense since he sees what's happening from the baseline to the three point line.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 07/17/2010 9:56 PM

    All of the pieces have been set in motion for the trailblazers for the past couple of years now, but there seemed to remain one piece that just would not fit in the puzzle, Oden. Now Oden at 7ft and nearly 300lbs is a beast, but from what hes shown so far has been more along the lines of "beast of burden." Last season ended no differently from the last the Blazers headed into the post season once more without Greg Oden, but they seemed focused heading into their first heat with the Suns. Now  i watched that series and it was a hard battled series, Brandon Roy had suffered an injury and was not availivble for every match, and no disrepect to my man, but it seemed as if that injury was bothering him a little more than he led on. But players such as Andre Miller and LaMarcus Aldridge stepped their game up a couple levels and carried their team as far as they could against the hot 3pt shooting Suns. Watching the teams performance in the playoffs,  led me to my own conclusions of ways to improve. The Blazers without a doubt need to first, establish a dominant inside game, post shots, layups, dunks, and-1's, points in the paint. Second they could improve on their perimeter shooting with a couple of players, so that if for some unholy reason Oden gets hurt or some other reason they can have a second phase of their game. Now i'm not saying that Oden is the key to winning a championship, becuase like most of you have already said, no one player is, but he is the key to a dominant inside game, an aspect that is much in need. With Roy, Aldridge, and Oden all in good health, id put those top 3 against the new south beach trio, because you cant teach height and boy do we got alot of that.
    with the youth and talent  that this team is completely drenched in, and good health obviously, the Blazers are amongst the top 5 teams looking to come out firing. 
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  1. odenrising
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    Posted 07/18/2010 1:57 AM

    Oden is the key. @ 22 years of age he has basically just stopped growing and developing physically. The smattering of unrelated injuries are unfortunate but only slightly above normal for bigs in the NBA if Greg were to play for the next two seasons relatively injury free. Bogut  has missed a high percentage of his games but is largely applauded as a good young center with potential....yet he has nowhere near the impact on games Oden has had. Oden's PER of 23 last season plus his huge improvement in a short period of time, point to a center that will be nearly impossible for teams to deal with a both  ends of the floor. Now it is on Nate to use him efficiently in the offense. He will win Defensive player of the year very soon and we will win a title when his game reaches it's potential. Get him healthy , start him, get him the ball, and extend his contract as far as you can.
  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/20/2010 2:54 PM

    totally agree with odenrising. When Greg reaches his potential, and IF he can stay healthy, we will win a championship. The pieces are all in place. That makes him the key in my opinion.

    If he plays ~70 games this year, and the rest of the team stays realitively healthy - we will be the favorite out of the West by the time the playoffs come around.
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/20/2010 2:56 PM

    p.s... we're a good team, but not even close to a championship team without him.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 07/20/2010 9:01 PM

    Like Dwayne Wade said, How do you know the heat are so good, because they have LeBron and Chris? You havent even seen them play, the Lakers should be on everyones mind still. And didnt you hear what the Owner of the CAV's said, "the cavaliers are going to win a championship before King James."
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/20/2010 9:31 PM

    Oh the Lakers are on all Blazers players, fans and front office folks. They are our only speed bump to the Finals.
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