You Be The GM: LaMarcus Aldridge
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/21/2010 11:36 AM

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    LaMarcus Aldridge stats
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Position: PF
    Height/Weight: 6-11/240
    NBA experience: 4 seasons
    2009-10 salary: $5,844,827
    Contract status: LaMarcus Aldridge will enter the first year of a five-year extension in 2010-11. Aldridge is set to make $10,700,000 in the first year of the deal.

    2009-10: Aldridge averaged 17.9 points (49.5 field goal percentage), 8.0 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 0.86 steals and 37.5 minutes in 78 games (all starts) ... Blocked a season-best four shots April 1 at Denver and Jan. 29 at Houston ... Netted a season-best 32 points on a career-high tying 15 field goals Feb. 26 at Chicago ... Scored 15-plus points in a career-high 18 straight games (1/18-2/23) ... Recorded a season-high tying 15 rebounds, career-high tying 12 defensive rebounds and a career-high tying four steals Feb. 9 vs. Oklahoma City ... Led team in points (27), rebounds (12) and assists (five), while attempting a career-high 15 free throws (made 11) Feb. 3 at Utah ... Totaled a season-high tying 15 rebounds, including nine offensive (one shy of career high), Jan. 18 at Washington ... Passed out a season-best six assists Jan. 13 vs. Milwaukee ... Netted 31 points (13-for-22 FG) to go with 11 rebounds in 52 minutes Dec. 12 at Milwaukee.

    While 2008-09 was LaMarcus Aldridge's best statistical year, 2009-10 was not far off. In fact, Aldridge posted nearly identical numbers in just about every major statistical category.

    The Trail Blazers leaned heavily on Aldridge -- and Andre Miller -- all season long thanks to over 300 games missed due to injury. Aldridge ranked second on the team in scoring and third in rebounding.

    With Brandon Roy missing 17 games in the regular season, Aldridge led Portland in scoring 22 times, scoring 20 or better in 23 games. And with Joel Przybilla and Greg Oden missing a combined 113 games, he led the Blazers in rebounding a team-best 28 times, including double-digit rebounds on 24 occasions.

    Aldridge led the team with a career-high 24 double-doubles this season and ranked in the Top 20 in the NBA in minutes played (15th, 2,922), minutes per game (16th, 37.5), field goals made (19th, 579) and field goals attempted (20th, 1,169).

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    Continuing with his trend of post All-Star break surges, Aldridge averaged 21.5 points over the last 25 games. He averaged a team-best 19.7 points in the last 44 games.

    In six postseason games against the Rockets in 2009, Aldridge averaged 19.5 points (on 49 percent shooting), 7.5 rebounds, 1.3 assists, 0.5 steals, and 1.7 blocks in 39.5 minutes per game. In six postseason games against the Suns in 2010, Aldridge averaged 19.0 points (43 percent shooting), 6.0 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.8 blocks in 38.2 minutes per game.

    Aldridge made and attempted fewer field goals in this year's playoffs, but upped both his free throws attempted and made.

    No matter the season for Aldridge, there's always room for improvement for the fourth-year power forward. And that's just what Blazers coach Nate McMillan said he'd like to see.

    "The challenge is not only for him to continue to work and get better on the offensive end of the floor," McMillan said after the season ended. "But I think defensively he can improve ... rebounding, blocking shots. He has just a wide open window of how much he can improve. I think there's so much LaMarcus can do on both ends of the floor."
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 05/21/2010 11:38 AM

    I love LA !!
    I am a fan of scrapping !
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/21/2010 11:40 AM

    Outside of Rudy Fernandez, this was the most compelling You Be The Gm. I am very curious to see where LA stands in the eyes of Blazer fans. We know he is a good player, but is he going to take the next step to All-Star caliber player? That is the million dollar question this summer. I believe if Oden were healthy, no one would even bat an eye at LA and his 18 and 8, because he is the perfect 3rd member of the Big 3, but if Greg's injury problems continue to hinder his development, can Aldridge be Roy's #2 go to man?
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 05/21/2010 12:01 PM

    Go. As much as it pains me to say it, its time for LA's tenure in Portland to come to an end. Try to package him for Bosh or another player who can be Roy's 2nd star or swing for the fences and try to get a prospect via the draft out of LA. For a player about to make 12 million a year, 18 and 8 isn't cutting it. He has all the potential in the world, all the tools, but he settles too dang much! Its like watching Sheed all over again. Also, I don't think he has a killer instinct, which can't be taught and something you need out of your top players.
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 05/21/2010 2:01 PM

    Posted By ClydeFrog on 05/21/2010 12:01 PM
      Its like watching Sheed all over again.
    He's like Sheed in that he'd probably won't/can't be a legit No.1 option on any team he plays for. He had many a opportunity this last season to do just that and had mixed results at best. When this team is 100% I think LA fits really well, LA and Brandon play very well together and Oden takes a lot of pressure off of LA and lets him play comfortable. I'd like to see more of that killer instinct and confidence in the low post and if he can add that to his outside game you got All-Star potential but i'm not sure how to get that out of him night in and night out. I vote he stays...at least til the end of next season.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 05/21/2010 2:40 PM

    LA is only Sheed from the shoulders down.  If he had Sheeds killer instict/attitude he wouldn't fit the  "culture" and fans would want him gone anyway.  Imo,  he hasnt been able to play the role he was drafted for with Oden mia 3 seasons.

    wa wa   wa wa   wa wa  on Bosh already......
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 05/21/2010 3:35 PM

    I could only wish we had a prime Sheed on this team right now. As explosive as he was mentally, he was equally dominant on the court. Imagine him not having to be the "guy" like he was back in 2000, but only deferring to Roy. There would be no pressure on him and he could just do what he did best, which was go to work on the blocks.
    Regardless, either player isn't living up to their potential and its sad. Aldridge needs to gain some confidence this summer, use whatever motivation is out there, and come back a little rough around the edges. This team needs some nasty to it, which is why I love Bayless so much. He doesn't give a crap about the other team and is willing to scrap it up. We need more enforcers like Joel too, but unfortunately, Joel's beat up pretty bad right now with the knee.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 05/21/2010 3:49 PM

    Like my grandma tell me,
    be careful what you wish for,
    you may just get it ,and it isnt what you expect. 
    I wished for Oden in the 2007 draft ;)
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 05/21/2010 3:56 PM

    I just think Aldridge has so much more to offer and as a Blazer fan that has seen its fair share of players not play to their peaks whether it be Rasheed due to his attitude, Miles due to his laziness/lack of love for the game, or Sabas due to not being able to come over from the USSR until 96 when his knees were washed up, it becomes a difficult pill to swallow. And now we have Oden and Aldridge. Oden can't help it because you can't control injuries, but Aldridge can help it. He has the size, length, and skill to be the best PF in the league but instead of adapting and going to the hoop, he plays his game and just is content to shoot jumpers all day long.
    I like LA, I really do, but with Oden's future in doubt, we needed him to step up and he simply didn't.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 05/21/2010 4:27 PM

    Well,  LA wasnt the only one who didnt step up in the Phoenix series.  I wouldn't compare him to Sheed or Miles.  He doesnt have an attitude and is not lazy.  The Blazers will never win a championship waiting for one player to win it for them.
    Just out of curiosity, how much of his critisism comes from him playing center? 
    As far as Oden and injuries, excuses are like a$$@*^%*!  ,( everyone has one ),  and after 3 years Ive heard enough of them. It's time for big boy to play. If and when we see them together, like summer league in 2007 when expectations were through the roof, I for one hope Blazer fans take a step back from Bosh's jock.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 05/21/2010 5:15 PM

    can't stop the L-Train!!
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 05/22/2010 2:23 PM

    it seems to me that a lot of people who consider this question seem to dwell on the negatives rather than the positives. LaMarcus was only asked to be the number one option when Brandon was out, and then it was more like a one-a option along with Andre. we all know Greg and LaMarcus play well together. we all know Brandon and LaMarcus play well together. we all also know that there are guys like Nicolas, Andre, Jerryd and Martell who can always step it up in any particular game. we aren't asking LaMarcus to do anything more than we need him to do. however, with the injuries to Greg and Joel, we often asked him to so something different than what he is accustomed to. to be honest, i'm surprised this question is really even being aired. LaMarcus, Brandon, Nicolas and Greg are definitely on the "don't move" list.
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 05/22/2010 3:17 PM

    I'm not on the Bosh bandwagon only because I think it would hurt this team in the long run. To many unknowns about how he's going to fit in, and were probably going to have to give TOR something else (probably Dante or some other fan favorite). I guess it really depends on if Oden can play a full or close to full season.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/22/2010 6:49 PM

    I don't think getting Bosh would hurt us in the long run at all. Not only has he been in the league 3 extra years, but I believe he is only 1 years older than Aldridge. Trading fan favorites suck (I would know with Outlaw gone), but let's face it..we root for the front of the jersey and not the back. Whomever we lose this offseason, I have the utmost confidence in management to find replacements who are ready to win the fans over. I was upset at losing Travis, but Dante is a pretty good replacement.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 05/24/2010 10:34 AM

    Agreed Hawes, you cant be mad at having Dante or Marcus, even if it cost Travis.  I personally wouldnt give up Dante.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/24/2010 3:18 PM

    You're right we are asking too much from LaMarcus Aldridge. He isn't a number 1 scorer..or a number 2 scorer..at best he's a number 3. We either need to replace him or wait and see if Greg is that person who can be that number 2 scorer that LaMarcus can play off of.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 05/25/2010 7:05 AM

    When one thinks of L.A. one must not think individual but think team and system. He fits well with the system that Nate wants. His numbers are Good (he could get a few more rebounds) and when Oden gets and stays healthy and scores a little more, this team will go deeper in the playoffs. I think the core three need to play together for a couple of seasons. Nates style seems to be a slow grind it out offense and tight defense. This system in two seasons put us in the 50 plus win cat. This was without all the pieces working together in the system that nate likes. L.A. is a big part of that system and to think he isn't is to deny that facts, which are his contract and his numbers. Both are strong indicators that the management got what they want in L.A. and in my opinion it will pay off in time. Keep Him because it's about team and system and he's doing a good job in both areas.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/25/2010 10:34 AM

    I don't think people are questioning LaMarcus' fit with the team when healthy. There is no question to it, he is the perfect 3rd guy to play with Roy and Oden. What raises discussion is if Oden can play healthy or not? If the answer is yes, then you don't move Aldridge for anyone, because of that perfect fit. But if Greg, for some unfortunate reason, isn't ever able to play healthy, then where does Aldridge fit in?
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 05/25/2010 11:11 AM

    Alridge fits in in the same place that he does now. That is as a person who gives you a consistent 18 points a game. Roy gives you 20 on ave. So with those two numbers do you think there isn't another big guy (relatively cheap) out there who will get similar numbers. This is all to make the point that with or without Oden you keep Alridge because he will never go for forty a night- the amount of points the big three need to consistently score is 60. What we need is another consistent 20 point scorer which I think we have (Oden?) or can get without letting L.A. go. If we ship him, who do we get to make up the 40 points (Bosh)? If we keep him we need to only make up twenty.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/25/2010 11:34 AM

    I think the argument is IF the team felt Oden wouldn't be ready and Aldridge isn't ready to score big points, you try to upgrade to someone who can get you about 24 along with Roy's 23, then bank on a guy like Batum stepping up and scoring 13-15 a night along with Miller's 15, creating a big 4 on offense, similar to how the Celtics are running things right now.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/25/2010 3:36 PM

    DHawes hit the nail on the head. Aldridge is great when he plays with Greg and Brandon. In fact that is a core that is a championship calibur core...however, Aldridge is just a good player who gets lots of touches to get his numbers when Greg is out..he doesn't have the skill set or gumption to be that number 2 guy consistently. If an upgrade is available then why not?
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  1. EthanMoney
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    Posted 05/27/2010 3:13 PM

    WoooW 3 no's to the guy who helped carry the team with Roy's absence. WooW!
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 05/28/2010 12:42 PM

    Did he really help carry the team though? When I was watching the games, it felt like it was more Andre Miller on offense and Marcus Camby on defense doing most of the work. That's my complaint with Aldridge was that he wasn't carrying us when we needed him most or should I say not carrying us enough to warrant a $13 million/yr contract.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 05/28/2010 1:07 PM

    Hey Frog,   do we really want to get into a discussion about who gets paid to much $ for their production for the team  ??
      cough  Oden  cough ;)

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/28/2010 1:10 PM

    Actually yeah we do, this is a You Be The GM: LaMarcus Aldridge thread.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 05/30/2010 11:13 AM

    It's an upside down world here in Portland, some of you say you would want to get rid of L.A. Who has the numbers to back up his position. but when I say we should take a look at bayless being moved, some of you who posted comments want to throw me to the wild pitbulls who eat babies. I would suggest that L.A. should be regarded in an higher opinion than bayless. I think he would get more love here in portland. If I was the GM I would be happy with LA, he is earning his money. At times LA was the only one who was scoring and this is a good thing. Maybe he wasn't doing it the way we wanted him to it-jump shots and not crazy super hero prison dunks- but he was consistent. We should stop trying to get LA to be something he isn't and thank him for what he is. what he is Good.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/30/2010 9:45 PM

    Like I said. He's good for what he does, and yes we should appreciate him for what he can do and not expect him to do anymore. He wont be that aggressive back to the basket player some of us want him to be. Or an excellent rebounder like he should be. What he is is soft. We should just appreciate him for being that and being consistent at it.
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 05/31/2010 11:02 AM

    Posted By ClydeFrog on 05/28/2010 12:42 PM
    Did he really help carry the team though? 

    Those last 6 six games of the regular season I though he played very well, but it didn't really translate over into the playoffs.  I think with Brandon being hurt off and on this year we really got to see what kind of player and leader LMA is. Could he have lead the team without Miller? Camby? I'm sure it was a eye opener this season for LMA, maybe it changes his mindset, maybe he takes that initiative and becomes a better leader who knows.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 05/31/2010 11:44 AM

    Posted By kenny c. on 05/30/2010 11:13 AM
    It's an upside down world here in Portland, some of you say you would want to get rid of L.A. Who has the numbers to back up his position. but when I say we should take a look at bayless being moved, some of you who posted comments want to throw me to the wild pitbulls who eat babies. I would suggest that L.A. should be regarded in an higher opinion than bayless. I think he would get more love here in portland. If I was the GM I would be happy with LA, he is earning his money. At times LA was the only one who was scoring and this is a good thing. Maybe he wasn't doing it the way we wanted him to it-jump shots and not crazy super hero prison dunks- but he was consistent. We should stop trying to get LA to be something he isn't and thank him for what he is. what he is Good.

    Its all relative. On one hand, you have Jerryd Bayless, making $2.1 million who relishes the big-game moment. He doesn't back down and isn't afraid to take the ball to the hoop. In the playoffs, without Roy, he was one of the guys who upped his level of play. His 13 ppg in the playoffs were 3rd best on the team and he did most of it coming off of the bench. While LA is scheduled to make $10.7 million next year, who didn't up his game, rather put up slighty worse production. I'm sorry, but without our superstar, it is LA's duty to step up and 19 pts and 6 rebounds in 38 minutes a game does not warrant his contract. This was supposed to be his year to make the All-Star team and take the proverbial "next step" to stardom and he hasn't and I don't think he ever will.  I am NOT going to sit here and say we shouldn't have signed him for that deal either, because in the last offseason, I thought he would take that next step and we should lock him up all we could. Oops.
    Also, I'm not an LA hater either. He is one of my top 5 fv Blazers, but I'm not going to sugarcoat his performance any longer. He can be so much better but its like he doesn't have the mindset to get it done. If we end up keeping him this summer, I'm okay with that, but it would be foolish to sit back, relax, and not try to upgrade him during the biggest free agent bonzana of our generation.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 06/01/2010 1:03 AM

    Who's expectations are we making our goal for LA? People keep writing that LA should have stepped up his game and that his contract doesn't match his production.  That he would make the all star team, etc. What is the main assumption that governs these conclusions? I think the main assumption about LA is that he should be a superstar. Now that we see him as just a pretty good player we aren't satisfied with him. But why are we not satisfied? I would suggest that, WE, THE FANS WHO LIKE THE SPECTACULAR AND AMAZING INDIVIDUAL PLAYER TO ROOT FOR AND CLAIM AS OUR OWN, have placed false expectations on LA. We are let down by his boring jump shooting. Words like step up and take it to the basket show the assumption that if you don't do this you are some how soft or not stepping it up. Is Brandon Roy a superstar? Or just A great young player who only averages TWO, 2 points more than LA.  You wrote "it's all Relative", I would say it's all relative to what one expects. You expected a superstar in LA, which means getting two more points a game if Roy is the standard - strange logic-I didn't know averaging 20 points a game put you in the superstar cage; But I think NATE and K.P. expected A good player who if anything needs to step up, not his offense, but his skill on defense and rebounding.As far as trading him that will not happen and if it did it would be a mistake. We need to build this team, not keep swapping out pieces here and there. I don't think that philosophy works so well. We need a good solid core of really good players who buy in to the team concept and know their roles. A team who has a working history and chemistry not one with "superstars". Those only come around every once in awhile. I think the superstar concept is tired and gets to much weight and we should look to a concept that every coach knows is the working concept in the NBA, THE CONCEPT OF TEAM COHESION AND EXECUTION. WE have this in LA and we should realize we do. Who do you want to replace the 6'11'' L.A. with in the free agent circus? james, wade, amare, bosh?  None of these will happen and we all know it. So lets build what we have and jell.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/01/2010 10:31 AM

    That's really the main reason why LA is a let down to US blazers fans. He has no or lack of toughness. He doesn't rebound very well on both ends and isn't really a good post defender. Too many times we see him tap the rebound away. JUST GRAB IT. But again, as I've stated he will NEVER be a superstar in this league because of his lack of toughness. His ppg are fine, just his rebounding is just dreadful for a man of his physical gifts. Maybe just maybe it may change come next season.

    But as you say, we do have to be happy with what we have and hopefully Oden can stay healthy and bring the toughness we lacked when he was gone.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/04/2010 1:52 PM

    If Oden can't stay healthy again (Pray that doesn't happen), I'm willing to give Aldridge one more chance to PROVE he can be the #2 guy.  If not, its time to look in another direction to help Brandon out, because he can't do it all by himself. Heck, even LeBron can't do it alone.
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